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PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 8:34 pm 
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First:
I'm using an ASUS MT276HE LCD flat panel display for my desktop computer and a custom video hardware project.
The desktop computer outputs an HDMI signal into the HDMI-1 port of the monitor. I use this computer for Xilinx ISE14.1 and according to the monitor 'Information' on this input signal, the video board is outputting a 1920x1080 @60Hz.
The hardware project outputs a RGB signal to the monitor's RGB port. The monitor reports an input signal of 1920x1080 @50Hz.

For this monitor the recognized resolutions according to the owners manual are below. I initially focus on the last line for 1920 x 1080 @ 148.50MHz pixel clock...

Second:
The custom video board has an onboard 100MHz can oscillator. From this the PLL divides by 5 for 20MHz, then multiplies by 52 for 1040MHz. For the video generator portion, this 1040MHz is divided by 7 for 148.57MHz, very close to the spec. Then it is divided by 14 for cpu section & hardware circle/line/pixel plotter, which run @ 1/2 of 148.57MHz successfully interfacing to the external SyncRAM.

The cpu programs the Horizontal/Vertical Sync Generator with the following spec's:
Code:
LDA #1920               ;2570 (2200 ideal for 67.5kHz) total H cycles      @148.5MHz 17.306uS ->  57,782kHz         
                  STA hVIDEO                                                                       
                  LDA #25                 ;55                                                     
                  STA hFRONT                                                                       
                  LDA #550                ;550                                                   
                  STA hSYNC                                                                       
                  LDA #75                 ;95                                                     
                  STA hBACK
                                                                                                           
                  LDA #1080                ;1139 total     @148.5MHz ->  1139 x 17.306uS = 20.09mS = 49.762Hz
                  STA vVIDEO                                                                               
                  LDA #2                   ;2                                                             
                  STA vFRONT                                                                               
                  LDA #55                  ;55                                                           
                  STA vSYNC                                                                                 
                  LDA #2                   ;2                                                             
                  STA vBACK


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 8:49 pm 
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Simple software written for the 65Org16.b to draw the above pic. The Line/circle/pixel hardware generator puts the 65Org16.b in a ready state to halt the cpu when any last coordinate has been sent. The generator is outputting pixels to the SyncRAM during this time. No precautions are taken to avoid the snow effect, yet:

Code:
START:            LDA #$1000             
                  TAZP                    ;SET ZEROPAGE @$1000_0000
                  LDA #$1001
                      TASP                    ;SET STACKPAGE @$1001_0000                 
                                                                                                   
                  LDA #1920               ;2570 (2200 ideal for 67.5kHz) total H cycles      @148.5MHz 17.306uS ->  57,782kHz         
                  STA hVIDEO                                                                       
                  LDA #25                 ;55                                                     
                  STA hFRONT                                                                       
                  LDA #550                ;550                                                   
                  STA hSYNC                                                                       
                  LDA #75                 ;95                                                     
                  STA hBACK
                                                                                                           
                  LDA #1080                ;1139 total     @148.5MHz ->  1139 x 17.306uS = 20.09mS = 49.762Hz
                  STA vVIDEO                                                                               
                  LDA #2                   ;2                                                             
                  STA vFRONT                                                                               
                  LDA #55                  ;55                                                           
                  STA vSYNC                                                                                 
                  LDA #2                   ;2                                                             
                  STA vBACK                                                                                 
                         
                  LDX #$0                  ;black pixels
                  LDA CLUT,X
                  STA color
                 
                  LDA #1920/2              ;fill top left quadrant black
                  STA fXlen
                  LDA #1080/2
                  STA fYlen
                  LDA #0
                  STA fXs
                  STA fYs                  ;FILL!
                 
                  LDA #1920/2              ;fill bottom right quadrant black
                  STA fXlen
                  LDA #1080/2
                  STA fYlen
                  LDA #1920/2
                  STA fXs
                  LDA #1080/2
                  STA fYs                  ;FILL!
                 
                  LDX #2
                  LDA CLUT,X
                  STA color
                 
                  LDA #101                  ;PLOT SINGLE red PIXEL
                  STA Xp                   
                  STA Yp                    ;PLOT!
                 
                  LDX #6                    ;blue pixels
                  LDA CLUT,X
                  STA color
                 
                  LDA #300
                  STA fXlen
                  LDA #0
                  STA fYlen
                  LDA #319
                  STA fXs
                  LDA #239
                  STA fYs                   ;FILL! (test, thin blue fill)
                                   
                 
                  LDA #0
                  STA fXlen
                  LDA #300
                  STA fYlen
                  LDA #319
                  STA fXs
                  LDA #239
                  STA fYs                  ;FILL! (test, thin blue fill)
                                   
                 
                  LDX #2                   ;red pixels
                  LDA CLUT,X
                  STA color
                 
                  LDA #179
                  STA fXlen
                  LDA #179
                  STA fYlen
                  LDA #320
                  STA fXs
                  LDA #240
                  STA fYs                 ;FILL! (test, red rectangle)
                 
                  LDX #$05                ;green pixels
                  LDA CLUT,X
                  STA color
                 
;border         
                  LDA #0
                  STA lx0
                  LDA #0
                  STA ly0
                  LDA #1919
                  STA lx1
                  LDA #0
                  STA ly1                 ;DRAW LINE!
                 
                  LDA #1919
                  STA lx0
                  LDA #0
                  STA ly0
                  LDA #1919
                  STA lx1
                  LDA #1079
                  STA ly1                ;DRAW LINE!
                 
                  LDA #1919
                  STA lx0
                  LDA #1079
                  STA ly0
                  LDA #0
                  STA lx1
                  LDA #1079
                  STA ly1               ;DRAW LINE!
                 
                  LDA #0
                  STA lx0
                  LDA #1079
                  STA ly0
                  LDA #0
                  STA lx1
                  LDA #0
                  STA ly1               ;DRAW LINE!
                 
                  LDA #0
                  STA lx0
                  LDA #0
                  STA ly0
                  LDA #1919
                  STA lx1
                  LDA #1079
                  STA ly1               ;DRAW LINE!
                 
                  LDA #0
                  STA lx0
                  LDA #1079
                  STA ly0
                  LDA #1919
                  STA lx1
                  LDA #0
                  STA ly1              ;DRAW LINE!
;SQUARE1                 
                  LDA #300
                  STA lx0
                  LDA #400
                  STA ly0
                  LDA #350
                  STA lx1
                  LDA #400
                  STA ly1             ;DRAW LINE!
                 
                 
                  LDA #350
                  STA lx0
                  LDA #400
                  STA ly0
                  LDA #350
                  STA lx1
                  LDA #450           
                  STA ly1            ;DRAW LINE!
                 
                 
                  LDA #350
                  STA lx0
                  LDA #450
                  STA ly0
                  LDA #300
                  STA lx1
                  LDA #450
                  STA ly1           ;DRAW LINE!
                 
                 
                  LDA #300
                  STA lx0
                  LDA #450
                  STA ly0
                  LDA #300
                  STA lx1
                  LDA #400
                  STA ly1          ;DRAW LINE!
                 
                 
;SQUARE2                 
                  LDA #325
                  STA lx0
                  LDA #375
                  STA ly0
                  LDA #375
                  STA lx1
                  LDA #375
                  STA ly1         ;DRAW LINE!
                 
                 
                  LDA #375
                  STA lx0
                  LDA #375
                  STA ly0
                  LDA #375
                  STA lx1
                  LDA #425
                  STA ly1         ;DRAW LINE!
                 
                 
                  LDA #375
                  STA lx0
                  LDA #425
                  STA ly0
                  LDA #325
                  STA lx1
                  LDA #425
                  STA ly1         ;DRAW LINE!
                 
                 
                  LDA #325
                  STA lx0
                  LDA #425
                  STA ly0
                  LDA #325
                  STA lx1
                  LDA #375
                  STA ly1       ;DRAW LINE!
                 
                 
;4 interconnecting lines to join 2 squares for 3-D cube
                 
                  LDA #300
                  STA lx0
                  LDA #400
                  STA ly0
                  LDA #325
                  STA lx1
                  LDA #375
                  STA ly1       ;DRAW LINE!
                 
                 
                  LDA #350
                  STA lx0
                  LDA #400
                  STA ly0
                  LDA #375
                  STA lx1
                  LDA #375
                  STA ly1       ;DRAW LINE!
                 
                 
                  LDA #350
                  STA lx0
                  LDA #450
                  STA ly0
                  LDA #375
                  STA lx1
                  LDA #425
                  STA ly1       ;DRAW LINE!
                 
                 
                  LDA #300
                  STA lx0
                  LDA #450
                  STA ly0
                  LDA #325
                  STA lx1
                  LDA #425
                  STA ly1       ;DRAW LINE!
                                                                           
                 
                  LDX #7                  ;plot yellow circle in top left Quadrant
                  LDA CLUT,X
                  STA color
                 
                  LDA #320
                  STA xc
                  LDA #239
                  STA yc
                  LDA #180
                  STA ra        ;DRAW CIRCLE!
;----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                  LDX #6                  ;plot blue circle in bottom right quadrant
                  LDA CLUT,X
                  STA color
                 
                  LDA #1500
                  STA xc
                  LDA #850
                  STA yc
                  LDA #179
                  STA ra         ;DRAW CIRCLE!
                 
                  LDX #1                 ;draw white lines from center of last circle
                  LDA CLUT,X
                  STA color
                 
                  LDY #850 + 180
LRUN              LDA #1500
                  STA lx0
                  LDA #850
                  STA ly0
                  LDA #1500 + 180
                  STA lx1
                 
                  STY ly1
                  DEY
                  DEY
                  CPY #850 - 180
                  BPL LRUN
                                                                                       
ENDALL            JMP ENDALL

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Nice work! The 65Org16.b sure looks like a nice host (natural fit) for the stuff you're doing here.

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Thanks Mike. There's a few issues to be resolved yet, but I posted not only to show it's possible for a home brew system to go HD, but because I've a question: When I try to match the pixel, horizontal and vertical frequencies to what is spec'd in the monitor's User Guide (which I posted above), the picture does not fit. Interestingly too, 1920x1080 @50Hz is not one of the reported modes in the guide, but the monitor still recognizes it.

EDIT: Also an interesting note. At this fine resolution, a radar sweep of a line drawing algorithm is useful as a fill for a circle for example. In the above pic, on the bottom right, I stepped the line drawing by 2 so one can see the interesting patterns.

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I forgot there was a problem with dx vs. dy in my line generator module. It cannot draw a diagonal line across the entire screen yet (although it seemed to work fine in 1024x768), so I had to add 2 software code to add 2 more lines to complete the diagonals. I also had to add 1 to the error accumulator in the line generator.
Also, I had to make a small change to the display module so the SyncRAM output is sync'd with the HV sync module, a delay of 2 cycles was needed. Now almost everything is good, except the random (white and red ) pixels which I suspect is a timing issue.


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Now I have 4 PVB's outputting the same video.
With the pixels so small and each board adding noise in the form of maybe a 1/4 pixel, it becomes obvious now that this noise is going to be the enemy at this high resolution. I'll add in all the .1uF bypass caps on every board now and report back.
Here's a pic. Still extraneous data being written to the SyncRAM which is most visible in the bottom right. The noise I speak of is most noticeable in the red triangle. It almost appears solid red. Hopefully bypass caps will fix this.


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The extraneous pixel problem has been fixed. It was a hardware timing problem with the SyncRAM R/W signal, it was late by one cycle. The hunt for the problem revealed to me that I could remove a state from the line plotter as well. This is a full cycle, so it effectively doubles the plotting time of the hardware state machine....
Strange that it only reared it's head when I plotted consecutive lines:
Code:
                  LDX #2                 ;draw red lines from center of last circle to the left
                  LDA CLUT,X
                  STA color
                 
                  LDY #850 + 179
                 
LRUN2             LDA #1500
                  STA lx0
                  LDA #850
                  STA ly0
                  LDA #1500 - 179
                  STA lx1
                  STY ly1                ;DRAW!
                  DEY
                  DEY
                  CPY #850 - 179
                  BNE LRUN2

I can do the following no problem to remove a delay I thought was needed:
Code:
                  LDX #2                 ;draw red lines from center of last circle to the left
                  LDA CLUT,X
                  STA color
                 
                  LDY #850 + 179
                 
                  LDA #1500
                  STA lx0
                  LDA #850
                  STA ly0
                  LDA #1500 - 179
                  STA lx1
LRUN2             STY ly1                ;DRAW!
                  DEY
                  DEY
                  CPY #850 - 179
                  BNE LRUN2


Tomorrow I add the bypass cap's (really?!, yes really). Then finish code for a hardware copy/paste.

EDIT: I forgot to mention, the video timings are much closer to the monitor spec, and it sync'd right up and auto adjusted the incoming video. Each pixel is square with no blurriness.
Code:
                  LDA #1920               ;2430 (2200 ideal for 67.5kHz) total H cycles      @148.5MHz 16.363uS ->  61.111kHz         
                  STA hVIDEO                                                                       
                  LDA #205                 ;205                                                     
                  STA hFRONT                                                                       
                  LDA #50                  ;50                                                   
                  STA hSYNC                                                                       
                  LDA #255                 ;255                                                     
                  STA hBACK
                                                                                                           
                  LDA #1080                ;1139 total     @148.5MHz ->  1139 x 16.363uS = 18.638mS = 53.654Hz
                  STA vVIDEO                                                                               
                  LDA #2                   ;2                                                             
                  STA vFRONT                                                                               
                  LDA #55                  ;55                                                           
                  STA vSYNC                                                                                 
                  LDA #2                   ;2

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Got the copy/paste working, but reading the SyncRAM was only successful at 1/4 speed of the pixel clock, i.e. ~37MHz. It is a state machine that does back-to-back Read/Writes, 2 cycles per operation. 1 cycle to set up the address first, the second cycle to read or write the data as according to the data sheet.
If a write is successful at 74MHz and not a read, I suspect the FPGA data-in lines need to be delayed by an amount less than 1 cycle. I will have to investigate on delaying the IOBs on the FPGA.

In this pic, the upper left has a white triangle which was done by a single step radar sweep of the line generator. (The other triangles are double stepped). An upper portion of that is copied/pasted to another region of the screen. The second 50x50 pixel copy/paste is from the center of the upper left circle. It has been copied to the bottom right of the screen.

The purple circle fill is not successful by plotting concentric circles of decreasing radii...

As far as what is next in 1920x1080 mode, I think a hardware text plotter is in order after I get the Read/Write working @ 74MHz.
I don't think sprites will be possible as 98% of the RAM is used for the screen. However, 1 more mode is possible with 2 FPGA PROMs available. That will be in another thread later.

Here is the simple 65Org16 code for the 2nd copy/paste:
Code:
                  LDA #50
                  STA bXlen
                  STA bYlen
                  LDA #300
                  STA bXc           
                  LDA #210
                  STA bYc
                 
                  LDA #1200
                  STA bXp
                  LDA #850
                  STA bYp                 ;BLIT!


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ElEctric_EyE wrote:
...I suspect the FPGA data-in lines need to be delayed by an amount less than 1 cycle. I will have to investigate on delaying the IOBs on the FPGA....

That was brought up here. I have gotten the CoreGen tools to make one in Verilog, like I believe Arlet had done in that thread. I just wasn't up to his par at that time in my development, so I wasn't able to pursue his ideas.
It's not as simple as I thought it would be either. It will require another module, I will get into it very soon on a new thread.

I was off experimenting yesterday and today making a line scroll left to right then left again. Since the hardware line plotter only looks for the last 1 of 4 coordinates to start it's job, I thought I would post some simple code.
I got tired of the 'snow effect' real quick, so I sent the VSYNC signal into the 65Org16 as 1 of the control flags so the cpu only sends a plot command during a non-active vsync, so no tearing effect like if I would've send the command during a non-active hsync. (Also, as stated before, the cpu is halted by RDY when the hardware plotter is outputting data to the SyncRAM)

It's pretty cool, nice and short. I will have to make a video, it's very fast (the 'delay' code is at the bottom):
Code:
                  LDA #%00000000000000000  ;16-bit 565 RGB               
                  STA color
                 
                  LDA #1919                ;clearscreen
                  STA fXlen
                  LDA #1080
                  STA fYlen
                  LDA #0
                  STA fXs
                  STA fYs                  ;FILL!
               
BSCRX             LDY #100
SCRX              LDA #%1111111111111111   ;draw white lines
                  STA color
                                   
                  LDA #100
                  STA ly0
                 
                  STY lx0
                  STY lx1
                 
                  BCF1C $FFFE              ;Branch if Control Flag 1 is Clear (0), CF1 is VSYNC input, so branch to itself and wait until vsync = 1, a non display period
                 
                  LDA #200
                  STA ly1                 ;DRAW LINE!
                 
                  JSR DELAY
                 
                  LDX #%0000000000000000
                  STX color
                 
                  BCF1C $FFFE             ;branch to itself. Wait till vsync = 1, non display period
                 
                  STA ly1                 ;CLEAR LINE!
                  INY                     ;inc horizontal position
                  CPY #500
                  BNE SCRX
                 
                  LDY #500
SCRX2             LDA #%1111111111111111  ;draw white lines
                  STA color
                                   
                  LDA #100
                  STA ly0
                 
                  STY lx0
                  STY lx1
                 
                  BCF1C $FFFE             ;branch to itself. Wait till vsync = 1, non display period
                 
                  LDA #200
                  STA ly1                 ;DRAW LINE!
                 
                  JSR DELAY     
                 
                  LDX #%0000000000000000
                  STX color
                 
                  BCF1C $FFFE             ;branch to itself. Wait till vsync = 1, non display period
                 
                  STA ly1                 ;CLEAR LINE!
                  DEY                     ;dec horizontal position
                  CPY #100
                  BNE SCRX2
                 
                  JMP BSCRX

Delay:
Code:
DELAY             LDX #$001
LXI               LDWi $00FF
GHI               DEW
                  BNE GHI
                  DEX
                  BNE LXI
                  RTS

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I was scrolling a circle yesterday, which is about 8x more cycles than a line and it plots fine on a vsync enable. I itch for animation, but I cannot pursue it yet. I must pursue the hardware first.

Today I made the registers readable by the cpu, which allows for e.g. INC/DEC on a circle radius, which is the last register to be written that auto starts the hardware generator for a circle. Same applies for line, fill, etc.
Also, in 1 day I surprised myself by also attaching a character ROM to the vga module and almost had immediate success with the hardware bitmap plotter. This is due to the fact of learning Verilog and also what the SyncRAM needs. Also, I've done character plotting in 6502 software: Shift left, test, plot or clear. Verilog is awesome! Same concept but I made a hardware machine, which is functioning at 35MHz.

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I continued progress on the Verilog for the hardware character plotting machine. I refined the logic for 8x8 characters of 2 fonts, DOS & C64. Since these are 8-bit fonts I was able to pack them into the 1Kx16 CharROM side by side.

The display logic chooses either based on an Attribute bit [8], while the character data itself is present in bits [7:0] of the Attribute register. Bits [15:9] are unused at this point.

Also added a programmable background color variable, not assumed to be 16'h0000 anymore.

Working on programmable sizes for the character fonts currently. I've had success with individual sizes spec'd in Verilog using 'parameter' during experimentation phase.
Recently I've made alot more registers for software control replacing the parameter spec's. The project is growing (unfortunately)...

I have my eye on 2 variables the ISE14.1 is reporting on regarding the project, because they are headed towards max'ing out the Spartan6 according to the Verilog code I am adding:
Code:
Number of Slice LUTs
3,920
5,720
68%
 

Code:
Number of occupied Slices
1,232
1,430
86%
 

Tomorrow, hopefully I can finalize the variable size character plotting.

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What you are doing is pretty cool! You mentioned sprites earlier, I would think you would need at least 1 sprite for a hardware mouse pointer. Maybe instead of accessing memory for it have some registers for it's bitmap or a small rom to be able to select different kinds, pointer, hourglass etc. Keep up the good work, I share your enthusiasm for Verilog...


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Thanks Ken!
I almost broke the machine. I decided to stop progress for today and save. I should've saved my first success...
I had success with 128x128, 64x64, 32x32, 16x16, but the original 8x8 I have a problem melding with the current logic. I'll work on it, also a left/right alignment issue...
The camera cooperated with me today for a close-up of pixels, looks like some noise maybe, not visible to the naked eye.

You're idea of a pointer, like for use with a hardware mouse pointer, shouldn't be too difficult using the blockRAM.
Currently, I'm saving the blockRAM for use when I have a hardware ellipse plotter. Then the vector line drawing and real 3d animation begins.


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Some of the device usage seems to have gone down:


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Alright!
Got several problems fixed now on 1 PVB.

Today I fixed the Verilog character plot code so it will plot 5 different sizes, x & y the same. Not too interested in using up even more resources for different x's & y's (i.e. 16x8, I pursued it for awhile).
So the character plotter can now plot 8x8, 16x16, 32x32, 64x64 and 128x128.

Also, I was able to increase the speed of the part of the module which plots circles/lines/fill/blit/plot pixel to 74MHz. Major success! :lol: :lol:

Camera not as cooperative as the other day.

Char plotter plots characters of different sizes/colors/background colors.
Blit copies and pastes to a different portion of the screen.
White circle of radius 200 scrolls left to right.
Snapshot!


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