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by Justin
Fri Mar 22, 2019 4:50 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: 6502s are faster than all modern computers!
Replies: 25
Views: 2008

6502s are faster than all modern computers!

OK, not really. However, I found this input latency comparison of old vs new quite interesting. What is especially interesting is that the winning system is a 6502 that (if I remember correctly) does not use interrupts for keyboard input. This reminds me of past comments from Garth about 6502 ...
by Justin
Thu Dec 12, 2013 3:26 pm
Forum: Nostalgia
Topic: The Real Story of Hacking Together the Commodore C128
Replies: 5
Views: 1476

Re: The Real Story of Hacking Together the Commodore C128

I posted this on 6 Commodore / 8 Bit boards and there are only 7 comments. There are more comments on Hackaday.

Most of the hackaday comments are crap. If someone takes the time to share an interesting story about how a product was developed and how they invested years of their own time in it, I ...
by Justin
Wed Dec 11, 2013 7:50 pm
Forum: Programming
Topic: 6502 can be faster than 68k :-)
Replies: 93
Views: 17545

Re: 6502 can be faster than 68k :-)

The 6502 might be faster than the 68K at some things, but executing the Dhrystone benchmark is not one of them :-)

Looking at the table at http://www.netlib.org/performance/html/dhrystone.data.col0.html, the slowest 68K (Mac) got 0.4 MIPS from 7.8Mhz (0.051 MIPS/MHz). Apple and C-64 ranked dead ...
by Justin
Sun Dec 08, 2013 8:48 pm
Forum: Nostalgia
Topic: First micro or computing experiences
Replies: 68
Views: 71792

Re: First micro or computing experiences

Like many programmers of my generation, I grew up with a C=64 in the house. They weren't the greatest machines in the world, but they were VERY accessible. You could buy them in practically any store (mine came from K-mart) and for far cheaper than you could touch an Apple, IBM, or CP/M box.

I ...
by Justin
Thu Dec 05, 2013 2:51 am
Forum: Programming
Topic: 6502 can be faster than 68k :-)
Replies: 93
Views: 17545

Re: 6502 can be faster than 68k :-)

I think it's often imprinting - The first CPU you get to know well is the one you fixate on. Probably the C64 and the Beeb, the Apple II and the PET have a lot to do with it. Captured in our teens or 20's, we're still here in our ... middle years.

(And the Atari, the NES, ...)

I defiantly think ...
by Justin
Tue Dec 03, 2013 3:41 am
Forum: Programming
Topic: 6502 can be faster than 68k :-)
Replies: 93
Views: 17545

Re: 6502 can be faster than 68k :-)


I find the phrase "Every[one|body] will agree..." is fairly consistently a red flag for a weak argument. It is a weak attempt to take one's opinion and elevate it to the level of a group consensus.


I think he was joking. Since everyone here has some special interest in the 6502, of course we're ...
by Justin
Mon Nov 25, 2013 1:44 pm
Forum: Programmable Logic
Topic: Bringing up a 65org16 core
Replies: 29
Views: 6190

Re: Bringing up a 65org16 core

And yes, the serial port appears to work! Time to reward myself with the 50th aniversary Doctor Who episode. Hope it doesn't suck.
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When I get back I'll have to dig up that 65org16 Forth thread. I am excited about doing some 16-bit work. I like the minimalism of 8 bits, but it quickly ...
by Justin
Fri Nov 22, 2013 2:51 pm
Forum: Nostalgia
Topic: False hopes
Replies: 8
Views: 1860

False hopes

I have been enjoying reading olduse.net - a USENET feed that is delayed 30 years. Some of my favorite posts are excited rants about "up and coming" products that turned out to be massive flops. A few weeks back there was much excitement about the IBM "peanut" (which turned out to be the PCjr ...
by Justin
Thu Nov 21, 2013 1:19 pm
Forum: Programmable Logic
Topic: MINEO A - a 16-bit XC3S400 board
Replies: 20
Views: 4764

Re: MINEO A - a 16-bit XC3S400 board

Awesome! Let's get tg68 loaded in there and boot up NetBSD :)
by Justin
Mon Nov 04, 2013 6:25 pm
Forum: Programming
Topic: SD Card interfacing
Replies: 44
Views: 10790

Re: SD Card interfacing

Hey guys,

Does anyone have any empirical data on SD card performance with 6502s? I have a 1Mhz system and am bit banging SPI using a 6522. I am getting about 170ms read time per 512-byte sector. I'm curious what timings others are getting who are bit-banging or using Daryl's 65SPI chip. I'm also ...
by Justin
Wed Oct 30, 2013 8:20 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Where to buy 6502's?
Replies: 31
Views: 8352

Re: Where to buy 6502's?


Good point about data retention. What I'd worry about most are EPROMs and similar chips which rely on a minuscule charge on a floating gate (although chips that use fuse technology aren't perfect either). Of course if the part we're buying is blank (unprogrammed) there's no data to worry about ...
by Justin
Tue Oct 22, 2013 2:38 am
Forum: Hardware
Topic: NMOS to 3.3v
Replies: 3
Views: 676

Re: NMOS to 3.3v

Got it working. Two possible culprits:

1) The ground issue that Garth suggested. I found a wobbly ground post.
2) Not enough current from the NMOS 6522 to drive the TXB0104. On the 3rd re-reading of the datasheet, I found a single sentence stating that it needed 2mA. The 6522 datasheet says it can ...
by Justin
Sun Oct 20, 2013 2:13 am
Forum: Hardware
Topic: 6502 Design & concept questions.
Replies: 132
Views: 15591

Re: 6502 Design & concept questions.

The 7805 does have a thermal shutdown and short circuit protection, so under normal circumstances it should survive.
That's what I used to think until one day I accidentally applied a short to a 7812 on a gadget I was fooling with. It didn't have a heat sink and it failed before I realized there ...
by Justin
Sun Oct 20, 2013 2:08 am
Forum: Hardware
Topic: WDC 65C51 chips defective
Replies: 147
Views: 74990

Re: WDC 65C51 chips defective

My SBC was built with mostly junk box parts. I use a Rockwell 6551 that had several broken pins. Was going to replace it with a new 65C51 but maybe not now. There's enough of a nub left to conduct :)
by Justin
Sat Oct 19, 2013 12:53 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: OMG it's alive!
Replies: 7
Views: 935

Re: OMG it's alive!

Congrats!!!