Issue with ATF22V10C

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Re: Issue with ATF22V10C

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Interesting result Shawn. As recorded in my post of 19 April 2020 above, I'd previously tested the G22V10/ATF22V10C(UES) combo and got a failure (case 4).

I've just upgraded the xgpro software to V10.13 and got it to work. Which version of xgpro are you using?
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Re: Issue with ATF22V10C

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I am using Xgpro V10.11. I haven't downloaded the most recent update yet.
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Re: Issue with ATF22V10C

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Thanks for all the info! I'll try it out as soon as I've put my lab back together (probably in a few more weeks). This Corvid thing is getting in the way of my hobbies! :)
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Re: Issue with ATF22V10C

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Quote:
This Corvid thing is getting in the way of my hobbies!
Open here I flung the shutter, when, with many a flirt and flutter,
In there stepped a stately Raven of the saintly days of yore;
Not the least obeisance made he; not a minute stopped or stayed he;
But, with mien of lord or lady, perched above my chamber door—
Perched upon a bust of Pallas just above my chamber door—
Perched, and sat, and nothing more.

Then this ebony bird beguiling my sad fancy into smiling,
By the grave and stern decorum of the countenance it wore,
“Though thy crest be shorn and shaven, thou,” I said, “art sure no craven,
Ghastly grim and ancient Raven wandering from the Nightly shore—
Tell me what thy lordly name is on the Night’s Plutonian shore!”
Quoth the Raven “Nevermore.”
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Re: Issue with ATF22V10C

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Chromatix wrote:
Quote:
This Corvid thing is getting in the way of my hobbies!
Open here I flung the shutter, when, with many a flirt and flutter,
In there stepped a stately Raven of the saintly days of yore;
Not the least obeisance made he; not a minute stopped or stayed he;
But, with mien of lord or lady, perched above my chamber door—
Perched upon a bust of Pallas just above my chamber door—
Perched, and sat, and nothing more.

Then this ebony bird beguiling my sad fancy into smiling,
By the grave and stern decorum of the countenance it wore,
“Though thy crest be shorn and shaven, thou,” I said, “art sure no craven,
Ghastly grim and ancient Raven wandering from the Nightly shore—
Tell me what thy lordly name is on the Night’s Plutonian shore!”
Quoth the Raven “Nevermore.”
:D :D :D :D :D
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djkat wrote:
Thanks for all the info! I'll try it out as soon as I've put my lab back together (probably in a few more weeks). This Corvid thing is getting in the way of my hobbies! :)
What is this "Corvid thing" of which you speak? :D
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https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/corvid :wink:

( I had to look up the above, although the poem I recognized. )
In 1988 my 65C02 got six new registers and 44 new full-speed instructions!
https://laughtonelectronics.com/Arcana/ ... mmary.html
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Dr Jefyll wrote:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/corvid :wink:

( I had to look up the above, although the poem I recognized. )
Ah, yes. I'm slow today. I didn't make the bird connection. Thanks, Jeff, for flying over to M-W. :D
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BigDumbDinosaur wrote:
Thanks, Jeff, for flying over to M-W. :D
No big deal -- it really wasn't much of a peregrination. I was just falcon around. :mrgreen:
In 1988 my 65C02 got six new registers and 44 new full-speed instructions!
https://laughtonelectronics.com/Arcana/ ... mmary.html
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Dr Jefyll wrote:
BigDumbDinosaur wrote:
Thanks, Jeff, for flying over to M-W. :D
No big deal -- it really wasn't much of a peregrination. I was just falcon around. :mrgreen:
:D :D :D
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Re: Issue with ATF22V10C

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Chromatix wrote:
Quote:
This Corvid thing is getting in the way of my hobbies!
Open here I flung the shutter, when, with many a flirt and flutter,
In there stepped a stately Raven of the saintly days of yore;
Not the least obeisance made he; not a minute stopped or stayed he;
But, with mien of lord or lady, perched above my chamber door—
Perched upon a bust of Pallas just above my chamber door—
Perched, and sat, and nothing more.

Then this ebony bird beguiling my sad fancy into smiling,
By the grave and stern decorum of the countenance it wore,
“Though thy crest be shorn and shaven, thou,” I said, “art sure no craven,
Ghastly grim and ancient Raven wandering from the Nightly shore—
Tell me what thy lordly name is on the Night’s Plutonian shore!”
Quoth the Raven “Nevermore.”
Why do I get the feeling we're all being rooked here......
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Re: Issue with ATF22V10C

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Is this issue of programming only with the 22V10C? I encountered what I thought was a PEBKAC issue programming a ATF16V8 using the tl866, but maybe it's the programmer. I can share more details in another thread if desired.

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Re: Issue with ATF22V10C

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brain wrote:
Is this issue of programming only with the 22V10C? I encountered what I thought was a PEBKAC issue programming a ATF16V8 using the tl866, but maybe it's the programmer. I can share more details in another thread if desired.

Jim
LOL, I had to look up PEBKAC.
I don't know of any problems programming the ATF16V8B or C parts, but I would be interested to know if there is something I should watch out for.

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Re: Issue with ATF22V10C

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I'm hijacking this thread a bit since I also have a question about the ATF22V10C..
I cannot for my life find any information about the number of buried registers in this (underwhelming) datasheet: https://www.elfa.se/Web/Downloads/_t/ds ... ng_tds.pdf
Specifically how do I tell WinCUPL that I have this particular device? It asks for "pinnodess" (sic), which according to the manual is the amount of buried registers.

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Erik
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Risc wrote:
I'm hijacking this thread a bit since I also have a question about the ATF22V10C..
I cannot for my life find any information about the number of buried registers in this (underwhelming) datasheet: https://www.elfa.se/Web/Downloads/_t/ds ... ng_tds.pdf
Specifically how do I tell WinCUPL that I have this particular device? It asks for "pinnodess" (sic), which according to the manual is the amount of buried registers.

Regards,
Erik
Here's the most recent data sheet I have in my library.
atf22v10c.pdf
Microchip 22V10 SPLD
(1.87 MiB) Downloaded 125 times
You tell WinCUPL which device you are using in the header of your design file. It's all explained in the help files that are part of WinCUPL. The correct device is g22v10.
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