How to arrange my electronic lab

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scotws wrote:
Two years ago, I had the chance to completely rebuild our study from scratch, starting with the bare concrete floor and naked walls (if anybody is curious, there is journal on my wife's blog starting at http://wsdha.de/2011/09/06/ein-arbeitsz ... r-geschah/).

I had a look at the journal. It's all Greek...er...German to me. :lol:
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BigDumbDinosaur wrote:
I had a look at the journal. It's all Greek...er...German to me. :lol:
For us Europeans it's just another language.. :) I can read it, only slower.
But I checked with google translate, it can translate it just fine (unlike with some other web sites I know about). To avoid the google tracking just open an incognito window.

-Tor
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Tor wrote:
BigDumbDinosaur wrote:
I had a look at the journal. It's all Greek...er...German to me. :lol:
For us Europeans it's just another language.. :) I can read it, only slower.
But I checked with google translate, it can translate it just fine (unlike with some other web sites I know about). To avoid the google tracking just open an incognito window.

-Tor

My only other language is Spanish. ¡Hablo español así así, pero hablo ingles muy bien! Anyhow, I have a friend who is a native German speaker who is going to do the translation for me.
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Tor wrote:
.... To avoid the google tracking just open an incognito window.
-Tor
OT:
What is an incognito window? BTW, google tracking is much more pervasive then using the browser's 'private' mode. Even if you block ads, disallow google cookies and have scripting disabled, your signature (the browser version string) is unique enough to single you out in a crowded cafe. There is talk of 'search pattern' recognition. In addition, there are hundreds of sites that will set google's cookies and report you (ever watch those funny videos on youtube?). About half the sites out there use javascript libraries, conveniently hosted by google (really, people, why not just host a 100K file yourselves? That's about the size of an picture...). The end result is that they are transmitting their customer lists to google. Many sites embed google's metrics scripts (just to satisfy the site owner's morbid curiosity about how many hits they are getting), effectively giving you up to google as well. I don't know why people are so stupid, but no one seems to care.

Thankfully this forum seems to have no trackers.
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The browser version string of my browser is pretty generic, it's easy to verify by connecting to a server which displays it for you. In any case I also send my requests through a Privoxy proxy which inserts its own generic user string (if you tell it to). But sometimes I switch off the proxy so I have checked what my browser transmits. There's still my IP address, but when I VPN through the company it's the same IP as everyone is using so it's not trackable to me.

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Tor wrote:
The browser version string of my browser is pretty generic...
I wouldn'be so sure. Here is what my generic firefox setup leaks:

Your browser fingerprint appears to be unique among the 3,360,070 tested so far.

See https://panopticlick.eff.org/ and test your browser's uniqueness.
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enso wrote:
Tor wrote:
The browser version string of my browser is pretty generic...
Your browser fingerprint appears to be unique among the 3,360,070 tested so far.
I got 3,364,611. Hmm kinda close?
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Dajgoro wrote:
enso wrote:
Tor wrote:
The browser version string of my browser is pretty generic...
Your browser fingerprint appears to be unique among the 3,360,070 tested so far.
I got 3,364,611. Hmm kinda close?
That's because they had over 3000 hits between our tests. Our browsers are pretty much uniquely identifiable. They don't need cookies to track us, Dajgoro!

I am starting another thread on the subject since we are deeply OT.
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Wow, I don't know how you guys have your browsers set up.. unique among millions of tested browsers? Even without Privoxy mine is not unique according to the site.. it tries to look at various parts, but the only details it sees (for my browser) is the actual user agent string, and the http accept headers. So it gets "17 bits" of information. 11 of those are from the user agent, which I can change if I wish to (with Privoxy, for example), but I figure I'm not particularly unique at all.

-Tor
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Hi , I cant really say what tool you may need , but what I can say is what I have :)
Note that I have build my workshop few year ago so some of testing gear its old .
lets start :

Oscilloscope : DS1052E with hacked firmware (100 mhz)
power supply : Skytronic 650.685
few xilinx ,altera , Lattice programmers for cpld's and fpga's
vp280 universal programmer for eprom etc, its old and I'm not using it so often
atten 850 hot air station and few Antex soldering irons
few programmers for atmel ,pic , stm32 chips

there is more stuff but I have no idea where :)
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Wow, I don't know how you guys have your browsers set up.. unique among millions of tested browsers? Even without Privoxy mine is not unique according to the site..
If you are like me, than that is very easy. I use mainly Opera, and since I live in a country with only 4 Million people, where using Opera is a rare thing, no wonder I got such results.
bound wrote:
Hi , I cant really say what tool you may need , but what I can say is what I have :)
Note that I have build my workshop few year ago so some of testing gear its old .
lets start :

Oscilloscope : DS1052E with hacked firmware (100 mhz)
power supply : Skytronic 650.685
few xilinx ,altera , Lattice programmers for cpld's and fpga's
vp280 universal programmer for eprom etc, its old and I'm not using it so often
atten 850 hot air station and few Antex soldering irons
few programmers for atmel ,pic , stm32 chips

there is more stuff but I have no idea where :)
That is light years ahead form what gear I have.
With a low budget I found salvation in Chinese clones on ebay.
The only proper things I have is a soldering iron and a old 60MHz oscilloscope.
For the programmers I use ebay gizmos, and I find the buspirate a especially useful and versatile gizmo, since it can sniff, and generate data signals of various protocols, and even program AVR mcu.
As for the power source, I currently have to use AC switching adapters, which are a nightmare. They are full of switching noise, and building analog circuits such as amplifiers becomes a nightmare!
Also there is the floating issue. Those AC adapters are floating to about 110V (on a 230V grid), and when they come in contact with another device, then the result can be dramatic!
I was building a mic preamp a while ago, and when I connected the the output to the line in input on my pc, the pc froze, and upon restarting, the sound card was toast! So form now then I always need to have a crocodile clip that grounds it.
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Here's a picture of the current arrangement. I still have a lot of paper boxes filled with thousand things that have to be sorted, but the workbench is ready to be used.
And for sure, it was christened with a 6502 project :D
Since last Thursday night my W65C02S is executing "real" code from a AT28C64B EEPROM jumping between two code blocks from $E000 to $F000 that causes the A12 to flap every 460ms.

I wrote a short note to my blog about that: ATTENTION - google translated For those who don't like Google, here is the original version (german) http://www.ichbinzustaendig.de/2013/09/ ... ritte.html

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http://www.electronicdesign.com/analog/ ... uff-anyhow
This is a well illustrated online article, "What’s All This Messy Office Stuff, Anyhow?," a takeoff on the common theme in the names of National Semiconductor industry guru Bob Pease's many articles, since his office was amusingly messy, and the stories that go with it are impressive too.
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I'd been to lunch with Bob a fwq months before he did him self
in.
He was the few people I've met that understood that ground and
a wire were not the same thing, no matter how you connect them.
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GARTHWILSON wrote:
Wow, and I thought my workbench was bad! :lol:
Here's a little tour of my office/electronics lab after a major cleaning earlier this month: http://wilsonminesco.com/officeVisit2.mp4
Hopefully posting this video link won't get me in trouble with the server company for them having to serve up too many gigabytes in one month, in spite of the low resolution I did to hold the file size down. To keep it short, plenty goes unexplained there; so if you have questions, ask away.
http://WilsonMinesCo.com/ lots of 6502 resources
The "second front page" is http://wilsonminesco.com/links.html .
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