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ElEctric_EyE

Post subject: 65Org16.x Dev. Board V1.1 using a Spartan 6 XC6SLX9-3TQG144

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 1:47 am

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Progress continues to put the 65Org16.b (16-bit NMOS6502 without decimal mode) into action. 65Org16.a is BigEd's original creation based on Arlet's Verilog NMOS6502 softcore. Arlet & BigEd both continue to refine their work on GitHub, as I do when I find time. I would like to add a 65Org16.c core soon, which would have some simple but excellent time saving opcodes, like PHX,PHY,PLX, and PLY. I'll revisit that thread when I get most of this other stuff sorted out...

Currently I'm working on I2C drivers. Also, when I hit a roadblock I'm trying to sift out 1 of 3 6502 Assemblers/Disassemblers (Micromon-64, SuperMon-64, and Hashmon) that will reside in the FPGA BRAM. Looking at the code of all 3, I'm trying to determine all the JMPs/JSRs outside of the code. Looking and comparing the binaries reconstituted through MK's assembler, together with the book 'Mapping the 64', I should be able to make a choice soon.

V1.0 was a failure because the SDRAM layout was incorrect. Took 2 months for that initial iteration. From that version I learned that the MCP2200 appears to function properly with the Br@y terminal working under Windows, when it is fed 10MHz. I say "appears" because I could only look at the transmit and receive LEDs. I really had no drivers for any output devices. This was another shortsighted design error of V1.0...

Enter V1.1:
It's taken an additional 2 months, but I've added a 800x480 TFT touchscreen display interface connector, an I2C touchscreen controller IC and connector, narrowed the traces to .006", added 3 I2C programmable oscillators for 3 IOB's and changed the CS4954 video interface to I2C from parallel. Also the 100MHz clock now goes to all 4 IOB's.
The display I've chosen is a step-up from a similar display I've used successfully with Xilinx FPGA's in my 6502SoC. I was limited to 38MHz in that design, and expect to be limited here as well because it uses the same 8-bit SSD1963 controller and uses Phase 2 as the clock source. This is good because I can recycle the software I've written for the display with some minor changes, but it's bad because the CPU core has the ability to run faster than 38MHz. However, the display is really only being used to make and test drivers. The top_level schematic design is very similar to one of the last posts on the 6502SoC.

Unlike the 6502SoC though, this V1.1 of the DevBoard is almost all HDL. 3 files are schematic based, 2 address decoding files and the Top_Level schematic. Ideally I would like to convert the 2 address decoding into verilog, like I converted my ORs module.

Here's the Memory Map:

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                  65Org16 V1.1 DEVELOPMENT BOARD MEMORY MAP

            $0000_0000 - $0000_03FF....................HESMON/OS VARIABLES
            $0000_0400 - $0000_07FF....................VIDEO MATRIX (40x25)
   8K       $0000_0800 - $0000_1BFF....................EXTENDED VIDEO MATRIX (100X60)
            $0000_1C00 - $0000_1FFF....................AVAILABLE ZERO PAGE AS FPGA BLOCK RAM

   56K      $0000_1000 - $0000_FFFF....................UNUSED - REMAINDER 65Org16 ZERO PAGE

   60K      $0001_0000 - $0001_EFFF....................UNUSED - REMAINDER 65Org16 STACK

   4K       $0001_F000 - $0001_FFFF....................AVAILABLE STACK AS FPGA BLOCK RAM

   4.3GB    $0002_0000 - $FFFE_FFFF....................UNUSED

            $FFFF_0000 - $FFFF_0007....................I2C REGISTERS
            $FFFF_0008 - $FFFF_0009....................PS2 REGISTERS
            $FFFF_000A - $FFFF_000D....................SPI REGISTERS
   48K      $FFFF_OOOE - $FFFF_000F....................UART REGISTERS
   I/O      $FFFF_0010 - $FFFF_0011....................TFT REGISTERS
            $FFFF_0012.................................16-BIT PSEUDORANDOM NUMBER GENERATOR (READ ONLY)
            $FFFF_0013 - $FFFF_001F....................UNUSED DECODED
            $FFFF_0020 - $FFFF_BFFF....................UNUSED

            $FFFF_C000 - $FFFF_CFFF....................HESMON
            $FFFF_D000 - $FFFF_DFFF....................OS,DRIVERS,CHARACTER PIXEL DATA
   16K      $FFFF_E000 - $FFFF_FFF9....................AVAILABLE SYSTEM MEMORY AS FPGA BLOCK RAM
            $FFFF_FFFA - $FFFF_FFFB....................NMI VECTOR
            $FFFF_FFFC - $FFFF_FFFD....................RESET VECTOR
            $FFFF_FFFE - $FFFF_FFFF....................IRQ/BRK VECTOR

8:51 AM 1/7/2012

Here are some pics of the construction. No soldering errors this time!

Errors: Silkscreen is covering where I wanted to solder main power wires, but those wires have been secured the way I've envisioned!

I've used 3M double sided tape on a V1.0 board and use it as a mount for the V1.1 (on top) with some vertical standoffs to position it to make room for the PS2 keyboard connector that is shown on the left, on the bottom. Also in the forefront, is the 4-pin .5mm FFC, for the touchscreen panel, and the 20-pin 1mm FFC cables and connectors, for the TFT display.

Here you can more clearly see the interconnections. The small board on the bottom right, with 2 wires going in on the left and 2 wires going out, is the DC-DC converter for the LED backlight driver for the TFT. I initially tried 3.3V in, but it was using large amounts of current as it was dragging the 3.3V supply down to 2.5V. Thankfully no damage was done to the board.

This is my parts list to date. Most have been copied over from V1.0, so it is still not up to date for V1.1 as it is still under development. But all the IC's that have been planned for on the circuit board are listed...

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               65Org16.x V1.1 Development Board Parts List   (6/8/2011-12/2011...)

QTY   Price       Description               Part#                       Package               Supplier            Sch. ID
 1   $6.95     FPGA Prom                 XCF04S                       20-pin TSSOP          Digi-Key            U2
 1   $18.63    FPGA                      XC6SLX9-3TQG144I            144-pin QFP          AvnetExpress       U1
 1   $7.38     Video Controller             CS4954                      48-pin QFP           AvnetExpress       U4
 1   $5.23       16MBx16 SDRAM 167MHz      MT48LC16M16A2P-6A:D           54-pin TSOPII        AvnetExpress       U3
 1   $1.24     8Mb SPI Flash             SST25VF080B-80-4I           8-pin SOIC            Digi-Key            U10
 1   $0.81     3.3V POReset Supervisor   DS1818R-10+CT-ND            SOT-23               Digi-Key            U5
 1   $0.74     2.5V 1A VRegulator         MCP1826S-2502E/DB-ND        SOT-223-3            Digi-Key            U7
 1   $0.74     1.2V 1A VRegulator          MCP1826S-1202E/DB-ND        SOT-223-3            Digi-Key/Mouser    U8
 1   $4.02       100MHz 3.3VOsc. HCMOS/TTL   CTX318LVCT-ND                  SMD                     Digi-Key            U6
 1   $2.12       USB to UART                   MCP2200-I/SO-ND                20-pin SOIC            Digi-Key            U9
 3   $6.75       touch screen controller     296-14340-1-ND                16-pin TSSOP          Digi-key
 3   $?         3.3V 4kHZ-66MHz Prog Osc   DS1085LZ-5+T                  8-pin SOIC

 3   $0.76       1ea 22uF 6.3V capacitor     445-1595-1-ND                  1210                   Digi-Key           C33,C34,C35
 2   $0.53       1ea 4.7uF 10V capacitor     587-1379-1-ND                  1210                   Digi-Key            C31,C32
 5   $0.74       10ea .1uF 6.3V capacitor   709-1009-1-ND                  0603                   Digi-Key           C1-C30,C36-C42
 5   $0.06       10ea .01uF 16V capacitor   490-1525-1-ND                  0603                   Digi-Key          Alternate to .1uF
 1   $0.16       10ea 470nF capacitor       490-1548-1-ND                  0603                   Digi-Key            C43
 6   $0.02       1ea 0ohm resistor jumper   P0.0GCT-ND                     0603                   Digi-Key           J1-J4,J10
 3   $0.02       1ea 100ohm resistor          P100GCT-ND                     0603                   Digi-Key           R1-R5,R10,R11
 2   $0.02       1ea 75ohm resistor          P75GCT-ND                       0603                   Digi-Key            R6,R7,R12
 2   $0.02     1ea 300ohm resistor          P300GCT-ND                     0603                   Digi-Key            R6,R7,R12
 2   $0.56       1ea 5K trimpot              3302W-502ECT-ND                SMD                     Digi-Key            R8,R9
 3   $0.02       1ea 330 resistor            P330GCT-ND                     0603                   Digi-Key          R13,R15,R16,R17
 2   $0.02       1ea 4.7Kohm resistor       P4.7KGCT-ND                     0603                   Digi-Key           J5,J6,R19,R20
 1   $0.02       1ea 3.9Kohm resistor      P3.9KGCT-ND                     0603                   Digi-Key            R14
 1   $0.02       1ea 470ohm resistor          P470GCT-ND                     0603                   Digi-Key            R18
 1    $0.56       1ea blue LED                 160-1647-1-ND                  0603                   Digi-Key            L1
 1   $0.52       1ea green LED                 160-1435-1-ND                  0603                   Digi-Key            L2

 1   $1.10       RCA Jack Blue                 CP-1404-ND                     r. angle thru-hole   Digi-Key            K6
 1   $1.41       6-pos mini din PS/2          CP-4060-ND                     r. angle thru-hole   Digi-Key            K5
 1   $1.29       4-pos mini din S-Video     CP-2240-ND                     r. angle thru-hole  Digi-Key            K3
 3   $2.99       40-pin .050 male header   609-3724-ND                     H1-3 mating adapter   Digi-Key            future
 3   $4.41       40-pin .050 female recep  609-3766-ND                     thru-hole              Digi-Key           H1,H2,H3
 1   $0.69       mom push switch white       SW415-ND                       SMD                     Digi-Key            S1   
 1   $0.69       mom push switch yellow     SW416-ND                       SMD                     Digi-Key            S2
 1   $0.63       6-pin .1 male SIP           A1918-ND                       r. angle thru-hole  Digi-Key            K2
 
 1   $1.98       1ea mini USB                 A31727CT-ND                     SMD                    Digi-Key            K8

 
 10   $0.20       .050" jumper                 S9014E-03-ND                  thru-hole              Digi-Key
 10   $0.24       .050" jumper short          S9345-ND                                              Digi-Key
 1   $0.86       .5mm 4-pos FFC connector   OR746CT-ND                                           Digi-Key
 1   $2.34       1mm 20-pos FFC connector   WM7964CT-ND                                           Digi-Key
 10   $0.02       1.2Kohm resistor            P1.2KGCT-ND                                           Digi-Key
 10   $0.05       .1uF 10V                     399-1095-1-ND                  0603                   Digi-Key
 5   $0.02       1ea 47Kohm resistor          P47KGCT-ND                     0603                   Digi-Key

Here is the V1.1 DevBoard Layout:

Here is the V1.1 DevBoard Schematic.
Here is the pinout for the expansion Headers.

EDIT (12/17/2011): Added parts list per request. Initial post, incomplete...
EDIT (1/7/2012): Added Memory Map
EDIT (1/17/2012): Added Random Number Generator to Memory Map.
EDIT (1/20/2012): Added Board Layout and Schematic.
EDIT (3/27/2012): Added updated Header info. NOTE: Header pinouts are not up to date on Schematic.

Last edited by ElEctric_EyE on Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:10 pm, edited 7 times in total.

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BigEd

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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 10:32 am

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Hi EEye
could we have a link to your v1.1 layout please?
Ta
Ed

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ElEctric_EyE

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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 1:15 pm

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BigEd wrote:

Hi EEye
could we have a link to your v1.1 layout please?
Ta
Ed

Sure, here it is. It should be updated to the final tonight, but what you see in the link now is next to the last "progression", i.e. I had 15 progressions before V1.1 was completed. (1 via was switched from H1 to near U13, and labelling is different for audio.). I was really starting to go off on a tangent for the audio. In the end I think the sound board will be a daughterboard utilizing the 3 Headers, and not just the pins as I have them labelled.

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BigEd

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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 1:31 pm

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Thanks! I was a bit confused because this 144-lead FPGA looks on your photos like it has only 72 leads - must be just because they can't show the detail. Soldering at 0.5mm pitch wasn't too bad?

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ElEctric_EyE

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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 2:37 pm

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I had used 640x480 for the camera for small pictures. I got some decent detail with the closeup on the first pic though, despite the low res...

As far as soldering, as what's been said before in other parts of the forum and the internet, using flux is critical. I use a needle like dispenser with a fine point. I used no solder at all on the FPGA. The flux allows you to see the solder flow underneath each pin.
What has not been mentioned so much is the condition of the eyesight of the one doing the soldering work! I am extremely near-sighted, so when I do my soldering without my glasses, I see it very clear about 2-3in from my eyes. When I do need magnification when things are suspected short, I use clip-on lenses with my glasses. Talk about eye strain!

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BigEd

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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 3:38 pm

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Very good point - that first picture makes it clear.

I'm about as near-sighted as you are. I haven't tried anything as fine as that. Yet. I'm not sure I want unprotected eyes quite so close, but I have a couple of magnifiers. Anyway, as you say, soldering topics have been covered elsewhere.

I suppose you're some way from trying to bring the RAM to life?

Cheers
Ed

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ElEctric_EyE

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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 4:06 pm

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BigEd wrote:

...I suppose you're some way from trying to bring the RAM to life?

Cheers
Ed

Hopefully Arlet will lead the way there when it comes time, which shouldn't be too long, I hope. I know he has mentioned the speed of the SDRAM may have to run 2x faster than the CPU for some configurations?, IIRC. I could use the PLLs for this, there is one left. I really would like to get the I2C working so I can put the DS1085LZ-5 frequency generators to work for this, and save the last PLL.

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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 5:02 pm

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If you want maximum performance, you could run the SDRAM faster than the CPU, but for simplicity, I'd recommend running both at the same speed to start with. It also depends on the max speed. If the SDRAM is limited to 133MHz, and the CPU to 100 MHz, there's not much point in letting the SDRAM run faster.

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I did get the 167MHz higher speed grade SDRAM. But right now the CPU is running off of the 27MHz pixel clock.

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Arlet

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ElEctric_EyE wrote:

I did get the 167MHz higher speed grade SDRAM. But right now the CPU is running off of the 27MHz pixel clock.

It's fairly easy to have a pixel clock that's completely different than the CPU or memory clock, because data only goes one way. It's just a matter of putting an asynchronous FIFO in the path. Data goes into the FIFO on the fast clock, and out of the FIFO with the pixel clock. When the FIFO is near empty, you start another memory burst to fetch some more data, and you stop the burst when the FIFO is full.

It's trickier to put the SDRAM and the CPU on different clocks, especially if they aren't a simple ratio, like 1:2.

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ElEctric_EyE

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Arlet wrote:

...It's fairly easy to have a pixel clock that's completely different than the CPU or memory clock, because data only goes one way. It's just a matter of putting an asynchronous FIFO in the path. Data goes into the FIFO on the fast clock, and out of the FIFO with the pixel clock. When the FIFO is near empty, you start another memory burst to fetch some more data, and you stop the burst when the FIFO is full.

It's trickier to put the SDRAM and the CPU on different clocks, especially if they aren't a simple ratio, like 1:2.

I think I understand if we were to use this memory as video memory.
The output of the FIFO goes to the video shift register, in this case a CS4954 and is clocked at the pixel rate.
Data is written to the FIFO from the SDRAM in bursts. After the FIFO is full, the SDRAM is free and can be read/written to by the CPU. To keep things simple, CPU and SDRAM are running at the same speeds, let's say 50MHz. At this point does the cpu change the burst length in order to use the RAM like ordinary SRAM? so it can RMW single video memory locations?

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ElEctric_EyE wrote:

What I would do is make an SDRAM controller with 2 ports, one port for the video output FIFO, and another port for the CPU, so both CPU and video generator can request access to the SDRAM. The SDRAM controller also contains an arbiter block, who's task it is to choice between the two devices.

For instance:

If the CPU is doing a burst, and the video FIFO still holds more than N bytes, we can let the CPU continue.

If the CPU is doing a burst, and video FIFO holds less than N bytes, abort the CPU burst, and start a video access.

If video is busy, and FIFO holds less than M bytes, we let video continue.

If video is busy, FIFO holds more than M bytes, and CPU requests , stop video burst, and start CPU access.

If video is busy, and CPU does not request bus, continue until video FIFO is full.

It may sound complicated, but each of those tests is just one line in verilog.

It's also possible to implement a DMA controller as a 3rd port to the SDRAM interface. Because the 6502 CPU and 65Org16 derivatives don't have a natural burst method, you can make a separate hardware state machine that will copy a block of SDRAM data into a block RAM, and give the CPU access to the other side of the block RAM.

This would work like so:

- CPU writes start address and length into DMA controller registers
- DMA controller copies data block from block RAM to SDRAM, or vice versa
- when DMA controller is ready, the CPU gets an interrupt, or can poll a status bit.
- CPU gets direct access to block RAM to read/write the data.

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ElEctric_EyE

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Some excellent information!
Your "IF" statements don't sound too complicated... When doing my ORs module, the error messages and synthesis warnings actually led me in the right direction, along with some google searches. From looking at others' code I could gather the general syntax...

Just a question, right off the top:

How big of a FIFO buffer would have to be used do you think at the speeds mentioned? and..
It would have to be inside the FPGA no doubt as block ram?

Regarding the second half of your statement about DMA:

Arlet wrote:

...and give the CPU access to the other side of the block RAM.
..

You mean the other side of the SDRAM, not the block ram right? Because, since the video shift register is only 8-bits wide and the SDRAM is 16-bits wide, half of the memory is unused!

P.S. The board layout link has been updated and now reflects 100% what is seen in the pics.

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ElEctric_EyE wrote:

How big of a FIFO buffer would have to be used do you think at the speeds mentioned? and.. It would have to be inside the FPGA no doubt as block ram?

Yes, a block RAM. And you'd use the whole thing, so when the CPU is doing something else, you can read long bursts for the video.

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You mean the other side of the SDRAM, not the block ram right? Because, since the video shift register is only 8-bits wide and the SDRAM is 16-bits wide, half of the memory is unused!

The block RAMs inside the FPGA can have different widths on both sides. So, you'd have a block RAM with 16 bit input from SDRAM, and 8 bit output to video shift.

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ElEctric_EyE

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Arlet wrote:

Yes, a block RAM. And you'd use the whole thing, so when the CPU is doing something else, you can read long bursts for the video...

This pretty much means this Spartan 6 would be dedicated for video. I was using block RAMs for zero page, stack and ROM for the 65Org16.

Arlet wrote:

..The block RAMs inside the FPGA can have different widths on both sides. So, you'd have a block RAM with 16 bit input from SDRAM, and 8 bit output to video shift.

How does that work? Does it just truncate a byte?

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