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by Solater
Sat Apr 06, 2019 8:02 pm
Forum: Newbies
Topic: Making Battery-Backed SRAM
Replies: 13
Views: 2636

Re: Making Battery-Backed SRAM

I finally got it to work! I redid the whole assembly, but it looks like the problem was not in the assembly itself. Here is what it looks like now (Note that the ZIF is not part of the assembly and only used here to keep the IC upright for the photo):
IMG_20190406_134818.jpg
It looks like when ...
by Solater
Wed Apr 03, 2019 1:55 am
Forum: Newbies
Topic: Making Battery-Backed SRAM
Replies: 13
Views: 2636

Re: Making Battery-Backed SRAM

So I've been implementing the design:
IMG_20190402_193444.jpg

As you can see, I used a couple of paperclips and some electrical tape as the battery terminal, and I connected an 18k resistor to the CE/ pin as a pull-up resistor.

I can't get it to work, all information is lost when I disable the ...
by Solater
Fri Mar 29, 2019 9:25 pm
Forum: Newbies
Topic: Making Battery-Backed SRAM
Replies: 13
Views: 2636

Re: Making Battery-Backed SRAM

If I can jump in... if you can understand how two resistances in series act as a voltage divider , you're almost there. When a driving chip pulls low, it has a finite drive, so if there's something pulling up at the same time, the supply voltage gets divided. You can approximate the driving chip as ...
by Solater
Fri Mar 29, 2019 4:26 pm
Forum: Newbies
Topic: Making Battery-Backed SRAM
Replies: 13
Views: 2636

Re: Making Battery-Backed SRAM

The pull-up resistors are there to keep the control inputs in their false position when the 5v power fails. Pull-ups are generally chosen so that they can do their job quickly enough, but also so that they can be overwhelmed by an output driver. A CMOS output ideally shorts to Vcc or GND, depending ...
by Solater
Fri Mar 29, 2019 4:22 pm
Forum: Newbies
Topic: Making Battery-Backed SRAM
Replies: 13
Views: 2636

Re: Making Battery-Backed SRAM

The 1N5822 diodes are silicon and the 1N60 diodes are germanium, that explains why their Vf vs. Af curves look so different.

Also, the !N5822 diodes, as Garth mentions, do have a fairly high reverse leakage current. The 1N60s are far better in this respect.

However, this PDF from Cypress does not ...
by Solater
Fri Mar 29, 2019 2:44 am
Forum: Newbies
Topic: Making Battery-Backed SRAM
Replies: 13
Views: 2636

Re: Making Battery-Backed SRAM

I would use a single CR2032 and a pair of Schottky diodes like the 1N60P to ensure the battery diode turned off when the 5V is applied.

The no-load voltage of a CR2032 is about 3.3V~3.4V giving you up to 6.8V total. The Vf of a 1N4001 at very low current is under 0.8V, so you might end up draining ...
by Solater
Fri Mar 29, 2019 2:21 am
Forum: Newbies
Topic: Making Battery-Backed SRAM
Replies: 13
Views: 2636

Re: Making Battery-Backed SRAM

If the SRAM has a low-power data-retention mode, it will work on just a couple of volts. You don't won't 5V on it for that, as the power requirement will be much higher. I show a simple circuit at http://forum.6502.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=573&p=32004#p32004 (although it sounds like you might not be ...
by Solater
Thu Mar 28, 2019 4:24 pm
Forum: Newbies
Topic: Making Battery-Backed SRAM
Replies: 13
Views: 2636

Making Battery-Backed SRAM

Greetings,

Recently, I've been unable to write to a 28c256 EEPROM despite my best efforts ( http://forum.6502.org/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=5584 ). Due to this, I've began looking for alternatives and my idea right now is to use a battery to maintain an SRAM chip powered while I transfer it from my ...
by Solater
Thu Mar 28, 2019 4:04 pm
Forum: Newbies
Topic: Problems writing to HM62256 SRAM
Replies: 23
Views: 3515

Re: Problems writing to HM62256 SRAM

As an update, I've received a new 62256 and everything works perfectly. I am still unable to program the at28c256 however.
by Solater
Wed Mar 27, 2019 12:19 am
Forum: Newbies
Topic: Problems writing to HM62256 SRAM
Replies: 23
Views: 3515

Re: Problems writing to HM62256 SRAM

Remember that the EEPROM control signals CE & OE & Write at all active low.
When you're not running a cycle, the control signals should be inactive (=HIGH).
The general flow of an EEPROM cycle should be
1: Set up the address bus value. Set the data bus direction. Set the data bus value.
2: Toggle ...
by Solater
Tue Mar 26, 2019 12:42 am
Forum: Newbies
Topic: Problems writing to HM62256 SRAM
Replies: 23
Views: 3515

Re: Problems writing to HM62256 SRAM

That datasheet you're looking at isn't the same as the one I have, at least in terms of layout. I got mine from the Microchip site.
The write-protection sequences haven't changed, though, so it might not be important.

I think you just have to make sure that you write that sequence, with nothing in ...
by Solater
Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:17 pm
Forum: Newbies
Topic: Problems writing to HM62256 SRAM
Replies: 23
Views: 3515

Re: Problems writing to HM62256 SRAM

If the EEPROM you're talking about is an Atmel/Microchip AT28C256, I've successfully disabled the software write protection before, and written to it in-circuit, but that was using an already-working 65C02 system.
I haven't made much use of that fact yet, but I have done so.

Disabling the software ...
by Solater
Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:13 pm
Forum: Newbies
Topic: Problems writing to HM62256 SRAM
Replies: 23
Views: 3515

Re: Problems writing to HM62256 SRAM

Won't the heat damage it? No, not unless you take a LONG time to do the soldering. A fine tip on the iron is helpful. And you want it to be fairly hot so the job can be done quickly. If you have any extra/worthless IC's around you can practice soldering on them. Edit: I found a photo...
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by Solater
Mon Mar 25, 2019 3:50 am
Forum: Newbies
Topic: Problems writing to HM62256 SRAM
Replies: 23
Views: 3515

Re: Problems writing to HM62256 SRAM

As for the 28c256, for a brand new chip it seems to me that any write protection would be disabled when the chip leaves the factory. Or was your chip used/surplus? In any case, I suggest you get a 2nd opinion about write protection.
The 28c256 is supposed to be brand new, it came from the same ...
by Solater
Mon Mar 25, 2019 3:04 am
Forum: Newbies
Topic: Problems writing to HM62256 SRAM
Replies: 23
Views: 3515

Re: Problems writing to HM62256 SRAM

Won't the heat damage it? No, not unless you take a LONG time to do the soldering. A fine tip on the iron is helpful. And you want it to be fairly hot so the job can be done quickly. If you have any extra/worthless IC's around you can practice soldering on them.

With A10 to OE, I get around 1.4 ...