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- Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:29 am
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Z80, 8086, 6502 and 65k opinions?
- Replies: 29
- Views: 12573
Re: Z80, 8086, 6502 and 65k opinions?
The goal is x86 assembly. Is there even such a thing as a 8086 or 186 development board though?
Sure, it's called "A laptop".
Seriously, what do you want to do with the hardware?
If you want to learn ARM, hard to go wrong with a Raspberry Pi and you have little pins to do stuff with.
If you ...
- Thu Jun 16, 2016 1:00 am
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Z80, 8086, 6502 and 65k opinions?
- Replies: 29
- Views: 12573
Re: Z80, 8086, 6502 and 65k opinions?
I see, maybe I'm too used to high level languages where if you learn one, then learning the others is a lot easier.
The goal is x86 assembly. Is there even such a thing as a 8086 or 186 development board though?
The goal is x86 assembly. Is there even such a thing as a 8086 or 186 development board though?
- Thu Jun 16, 2016 12:15 am
- Forum: Programmable Logic
- Topic: Os in vhdl?
- Replies: 11
- Views: 2972
Re: Os in vhdl?
It's an interesting idea. A lot of work to find out if it's practical or not.
So I've just thought of the craziest idea... what if you programmed an os entirely in vhdl? Obviously it could only ever run one os since it would be directly programmed in hardware but that single os would experience a ...
So I've just thought of the craziest idea... what if you programmed an os entirely in vhdl? Obviously it could only ever run one os since it would be directly programmed in hardware but that single os would experience a ...
- Wed Jun 15, 2016 11:27 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Z80, 8086, 6502 and 65k opinions?
- Replies: 29
- Views: 12573
Re: Z80, 8086, 6502 and 65k opinions?
So I take it the best CPU to learn assembly programming is the 6502, based on the elegance everybody mentions here... Although the main reason why I want to learn assembly programming in the first place is to be able to program in x86 and ARM assembly. So do you think the 6502 would make a good ...
- Sun Jun 12, 2016 7:53 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: OT:Vacuum florescent display as a msi vacuum tube ic?
- Replies: 21
- Views: 3682
Re: Vacuum florescent display as a msi vacuum tube ic?
I just found a youtube video demonstrating his radio. Apparently it required at least 120 volts to drive a pc speaker at high volume. Probably would explode like a firework after 10 minutes of that though XD
- Sun Jun 12, 2016 7:48 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Z80, 8086, 6502 and 65k opinions?
- Replies: 29
- Views: 12573
Re: Z80, 8086, 6502 and 65k opinions?
It's widely held that the 6809 is very good, and the 6309 is even better. Of course, my own favourite is the 6502.
(Edit: just spotted that this is a poll. What's 65k - is that meant to be 68k? Because of course the 68k is another kind of thing altogether. Or is it meant to be 65816?? I've never ...
(Edit: just spotted that this is a poll. What's 65k - is that meant to be 68k? Because of course the 68k is another kind of thing altogether. Or is it meant to be 65816?? I've never ...
- Sun Jun 12, 2016 7:40 pm
- Forum: Programmable Logic
- Topic: Os in vhdl?
- Replies: 11
- Views: 2972
Re: Os in vhdl?
BigEd,
You're right, my mistake.
But I still think the iapx32's failure was mostly unrelated to its mega-cisc complexity. By that logic, modern x64 cpus must be even slower. And I dont think an 8086 even at a 7 nm process would run half as many fps on starcraft/whatever as a p3 :P
And although ...
You're right, my mistake.
But I still think the iapx32's failure was mostly unrelated to its mega-cisc complexity. By that logic, modern x64 cpus must be even slower. And I dont think an 8086 even at a 7 nm process would run half as many fps on starcraft/whatever as a p3 :P
And although ...
- Sun Jun 12, 2016 6:17 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: OT:Vacuum florescent display as a msi vacuum tube ic?
- Replies: 21
- Views: 3682
OT:Vacuum florescent display as a msi vacuum tube ic?
So, really impractical idea for a rube-goldberg cpu here...
Vfds are basically just an array of tiny vacuum tube "transistors", and have been used in ham radios already as amplifiers... don't believe me?
Since triodes seem to work like a pnp bjt when a + voltage is applied to the grid, and a npn ...
Vfds are basically just an array of tiny vacuum tube "transistors", and have been used in ham radios already as amplifiers... don't believe me?
Since triodes seem to work like a pnp bjt when a + voltage is applied to the grid, and a npn ...
- Sun Jun 12, 2016 5:54 pm
- Forum: Newbies
- Topic: (Off-topic) best vintage laptop?
- Replies: 3
- Views: 3684
(Off-topic) best vintage laptop?
Been looking for a laptop to play with low-level programming on... I'd like something running ~100mhz with a simple enough design for a newbie to understand, but complex enough to run a "real" os like win 3.1 or at least dos. So far my top choices are
The Toshiba libretto
The gateway handbook ...
The Toshiba libretto
The gateway handbook ...
- Sun Jun 12, 2016 5:45 pm
- Forum: Hardware
- Topic: Discrete mmu?
- Replies: 21
- Views: 5501
Discrete mmu?
Hey all,
I've been thinking, any cpu that supports interrupts should easily be able to connect to an external mmu, 68451-style... right? Anyone ever tried to make an external mmu out of 74xx parts for a 6502/other cpu?
I've been thinking, any cpu that supports interrupts should easily be able to connect to an external mmu, 68451-style... right? Anyone ever tried to make an external mmu out of 74xx parts for a 6502/other cpu?
- Sun Jun 12, 2016 5:39 pm
- Forum: Hardware
- Topic: Techniques for reliable high-speed digital circuits
- Replies: 151
- Views: 618020
Re: Techniques for reliable high-speed digital circuits
What about exotic physics-based ideas? Would cooling such a device to below-zero temps, using ecl, asynchronous logic, or 3d printing a cpu so components can be placed directly above/below each other and therefore get much closer to each other increase speed significantly?
- Sun Jun 12, 2016 5:30 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: MEMBER STATUS
- Replies: 8
- Views: 2197
Re: MEMBER STATUS
Wow... get well soon marco, if you ever see this... hope you're ok! 
- Sun Jun 12, 2016 5:25 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Z80, 8086, 6502 and 65k opinions?
- Replies: 29
- Views: 12573
Z80, 8086, 6502 and 65k opinions?
I realize on a site called 6502.org yall are probably a little biased, but in your opinion, which of the cpus from the 80s was the most elegant/most powerful/just plain best?
- Sun Jun 12, 2016 5:05 pm
- Forum: Programmable Logic
- Topic: Os in vhdl?
- Replies: 11
- Views: 2972
Re: Os in vhdl?
Something like the Intel iAPX 432 ?
Mike B.
Well... yes and no. Of course it had no real os. But keep in mind, it came out a year before the 8086. Yes it had poor performance compared even to contemporary processors of the day. But , an application running on it (stretching your comparison a ...
Mike B.
Well... yes and no. Of course it had no real os. But keep in mind, it came out a year before the 8086. Yes it had poor performance compared even to contemporary processors of the day. But , an application running on it (stretching your comparison a ...
- Sun Jun 12, 2016 4:36 pm
- Forum: Programmable Logic
- Topic: Os in vhdl?
- Replies: 11
- Views: 2972
Os in vhdl?
Hey all,
So I've just thought of the craziest idea... what if you programmed an os entirely in vhdl? Obviously it could only ever run one os since it would be directly programmed in hardware but that single os would experience a huge improvement in speed since it wouldn't be to be "translated" into ...
So I've just thought of the craziest idea... what if you programmed an os entirely in vhdl? Obviously it could only ever run one os since it would be directly programmed in hardware but that single os would experience a huge improvement in speed since it wouldn't be to be "translated" into ...