Fake Chinese W65C02

[BigDumbDinosaur]

kakemoms wrote:

I once heard that some IC's are running 65C02 cores at >200MHz, but with a smaller process. I think they are designed and used in California somewhere, but I don't know the details.

I believe what you are referring to are FPGAs running WDC's Verilog RTL soft core. WDC sells RTL core licenses for both the 65C02 and 65C816, the sales of these licenses being their primary source of income.

[cb3rob]

hmm found some other fab that does it for 80k "engineering fee" with 10000 units in the first year and then subsequent orders, provided you already had the plans ready. and a working prototype (guess there are plenty of 'working prototypes' on ebay . (they literally state 'simular to 6502' in 'complexity' on the quote part of the website

[cb3rob]

i'd say that in a time and age where 'christmascards with leds that play songs' contain custom ic's (or at least the dies with a plob of epoxy over them , if you pay more than 50k for a custom asic production of anywhere between 10k and 100k numbers, you are getting completely ripped off. lol. tramiel bought ALL of mos semiconductor company for less than you say it would cost to have a few chips produced by one of their competitors if you could buy the entire -factory- for a couple of million bucks in the 1970s you definately can build an entire factory for -less- now. unless technology has moved -back- in time instead of forward. i also think we are getting ripped off out of our asses by pcb manufacturers btw. it's impossible that consumer **** retails for less than 20 bucks and still makes a profit when we pay simular amounts just for the pcb. so someone is scamming the whole lot of us things on the to-do list: get our own chip factory and get our own pcb factory. pronto. let's file this under the 'how many nerds does it take to screw in a lightbulb' but actually i would have expected 3d printers to make pcbs and ic's nowadays. for 'at home' sold at best-buy. but things got kinda 'retarded' in the end-user segment anyway.

[BigEd]

There are some interesting things to be said about the economics of mass production, cb3rob, but this thread is about cheap 6502 parts which might or might not be what they seem to be. In this case, the thread has already come to a conclusion.

[BigDumbDinosaur]

cb3rob, I'm not going to be as diplomatic and tactful as was Ed. In fact I'll be blunt.

If you can't keep the political palaver out of your posts and stay reasonably on topic, you would do us all a favor if you would remain silent.

[whartung]

BigDumbDinosaur wrote:

palaver

New word.

Thanx BDD!

[BigDumbDinosaur]

whartung wrote:

BigDumbDinosaur wrote:

palaver

New word.

Thanx BDD!

You're welcome.