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Re: LJ Electronics Emma 2

Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 2:01 pm
by BigEd
As a reference and an FYI, I found someone with an Emma board and with the information that LJ Electronics is still active but now called LJ Create:
http://www.anf.nildram.co.uk/beebcontro ... /emma.html
http://www.ljcreate.com/About/index.asp
http://www.ljcreate.com/products/factsheets/p5430.pdf
(It's possible they still have documentation for their earliest products)

Re: LJ Electronics Emma 2

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 4:36 pm
by g4gya
I have an Emma 11 but it has no monitor chip in the socket
i have an eprom programmer and a blank 2716 but no code
to put on it
help much appreciated
roy :(

Re: LJ Electronics Emma 2

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 5:40 am
by marian
Hello cheekyfox John

Are these manuals scanned and available somewhere? Those will be really helpful.


Thanks
Marian

Re: LJ Electronics Emma 2

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 7:11 am
by BigDumbDinosaur
marian wrote:
Hello cheekyfox John

Are these manuals scanned and available somewhere? Those will be really helpful.


Thanks
Marian
cheekyfox hasn't visited here since May 2016.

Re: LJ Electronics Emma 2

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 8:52 am
by BigEd
BigDumbDinosaur wrote:
... hasn't visited here since May 2016.
♬♪♫ You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave... ♫♪♬

Re: LJ Electronics Emma 2

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:30 pm
by marian
Where these books eventually scanned ? I don't see any more updates on that regard ...


Thank you.

Re: LJ Electronics Emma 2

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:32 pm
by marian
Thanks. I just saw the previous updates. Can't we find his email address ?

Re: LJ Electronics Emma 2

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 4:00 pm
by BigEd
Cheekyfox will have already have got a notification from the forum when you woke up the thread.

Re: LJ Electronics Emma 2

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 4:09 pm
by BigEd
See also this later thread - not that there's any definitive answer anywhere I can see:
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=3703

Re: LJ Electronics Emma 2

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 5:03 pm
by BigDumbDinosaur
BigEd wrote:
BigDumbDinosaur wrote:
... hasn't visited here since May 2016.
♬♪♫ You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave... ♫♪♬
Funny! When I posted my message I was thinking the same thing. :lol:

Re: LJ Electronics Emma 2

Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 2:08 am
by marian
Thanks a lot for spotting the other thread. I could at least download emma2_manual.pdf from there.

Regarding the email. Well...if we know that his email address is not working anymore then we can drop the idea of waiting for any replays.

Re: LJ Electronics Emma 2

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 1:08 pm
by jaevans
Greetings all,

I recently obtained an EMMA II board and, like other owners, am dying for documentation. The only potential leads I've located are :

1 - store.lathes.co.uk seems to be selling the Experiment Manual and the Technical Manual for 55 pounds each - pricey for sure.
2 - a lab manager at Southern Illinois University in Edwardsville, IL - Steve Muren - may be the one who used to host the copy of the User Manual that is floating around.

Someone here mentioned that they were working on a disassembly of the monitor ROM - that would be a great place to start. Also another poster began a schematic of the board, at least of the address decoding section - would be nice if that were available.

What I would love right now would be a way to serially connect to the board for uploads and downloads.

Film at eleven.

John - Colorado Springs, CO

Re: LJ Electronics Emma 2

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 2:56 pm
by jaevans
Hello folks,

OK, I've located and obtained a scan of the EMMA II Technical Manual. I emailed the POC here to see if the document can be stored at 6502.org and am awaiting a reply. The document is 112 pages plus cover and contents and is large at 50MB. I am sure folks will be interested in this document, for sure.

Also, I have not located a detailed schematic for the board (the technical manual has sheets 1 and 3 of the schematic and a low resolution image of the address decoding circuit) so if anyone ever locates a complete set, I'd appreciate that if it were shared. Also, I have the addon/external Memory Expansion Module and would like technical data on it - it has room to add 6116 RAM chips and 2716 EPROMs, plus it has an on-board EPROM programmer with an EPROM that seems to be dedicated to programming EPROMS. I can get the program to start and it lets me enter a start and end address for data to be programmed into the EPROM but I can't seem to get it to do anything.

I also was able to dump the code from both EPROMS (SE 116/A, D8-DD, FE-FF on the EMMA II board and SE 118/A. 90-97 on the Mem Exp Module). I can provide binary or hex dumps from both EPROMS. Disassembling code from the Mem Exp Module EPROM will be a task, but should help in figuring out how to use the programmer.

John

Re: LJ Electronics Emma 2

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 9:03 pm
by 8bitstedy
jaevans wrote:
Hello folks,

OK, I've located and obtained a scan of the EMMA II Technical Manual. I emailed the POC here to see if the document can be stored at 6502.org and am awaiting a reply. The document is 112 pages plus cover and contents and is large at 50MB. I am sure folks will be interested in this document, for sure.

Also, I have not located a detailed schematic for the board (the technical manual has sheets 1 and 3 of the schematic and a low resolution image of the address decoding circuit) so if anyone ever locates a complete set, I'd appreciate that if it were shared.

John
Hi,

I'm a newbie here, found this site and topic whilst on a 6502 nostalgia trip. Used to use the Emma II between 1993-1995 when I was at college here in the UK. 22 years later, I still have the boards and a stack of manuals.

I have the schematics, extracted from the 118 page technical manual. Enjoy, http://www.ianstedman.co.uk/downloads/E ... matics.pdf (909KB)
I also have the technical manual, http://www.ianstedman.co.uk/downloads/E ... manual.pdf (18 Mbyte)

I have not scanned these manuals but can do it if there is interest:
  • Emma II users manual
    Microprocessor application system MA04/1 Experiment manual.
    Microprocessor application system MA02/1 Experiment manual.
    Microprocessor fault simulation and diagnosis expansion system MA08
    These manuals for various plugin modules have code listings within;
    A/D converter MS3
    Relay module MS13
    Strain gauge module MS13
    Stepper motor MS4
    Buffered loudspeaker MS6
    I/O port monitor MS12
If the server bandwidth is not too nigh, I can host the manuals on my website, will monitor the traffic but I am happy to share them.
Finally some hardware pron :)
6502.org wrote:
Image no longer available: http://www.ianstedman.co.uk/downloads/Emma_II-small.jpg
6502.org wrote:
Image no longer available: http://www.ianstedman.co.uk/downloads/Emma_II_Modules_1-small.jpg
6502.org wrote:
Image no longer available: http://www.ianstedman.co.uk/downloads/Emma_II_modules_2-small.jpg

Re: LJ Electronics Emma 2

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 7:47 am
by BigEd
Fantastic! (And welcome)

I know Mike will be more than happy to put up this material, or a mirror if you put it up.

This machine was evidently fairly widely used in U.K. Education but has faded to invisibility.