6502.org Forum  Projects  Code  Documents  Tools  Forum
It is currently Sat Nov 23, 2024 10:14 pm

All times are UTC




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 51 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: BASIC with character LCD
PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 3:26 am 
Offline

Joined: Sun Apr 16, 2017 2:35 am
Posts: 34
Hello everyone

I was going to use EHBasic on my finished board, but it seems like everyone who is using it uses it with an ACIA and a terminal.

Is there a ported version with supports a character LCD? Or is porting this interpreter for an LCD possible?

Thanks!
-Nick


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 4:14 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Aug 30, 2002 9:02 pm
Posts: 1748
Location: Sacramento, CA
EhBASIC uses two calls for IO
- A non-halting input call to check for input, Carry clear if no character and Carry set with character in A if there is.
- A character out call for sending characters.

All you would need is to write the LCD driver code and point EhBASIC to it for output (and take care of data input).

Daryl

_________________
Please visit my website -> https://sbc.rictor.org/


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 4:31 am 
Offline

Joined: Sun Apr 16, 2017 2:35 am
Posts: 34
Awesome. Thanks. I'll get working on it ASAP. :)


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 5:09 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Aug 30, 2002 1:09 am
Posts: 8546
Location: Southern California
I have code in various forms for driving the common intelligent character LCDs at http://wilsonminesco.com/6502primer/LCDcode.asm in the 6502 primer. Be particularly careful to follow the reset method there, to get a reset that always works. It came from when we were trying to get an LCD going at work in the late 1980's and finally got this info in an ap. note from the manufacturer. (I know 1987 was a long time ago for many people here, but it has been nice that the same controllers have been used for 30+ years now, giving stability.) The "Displays" page of the primer is at http://wilsonminesco.com/6502primer/displays.html .

_________________
http://WilsonMinesCo.com/ lots of 6502 resources
The "second front page" is http://wilsonminesco.com/links.html .
What's an additional VIA among friends, anyhow?


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 10:30 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Apr 16, 2017 2:35 am
Posts: 34
Well, I have it running...sorta. When I do a command, it freezes. I can write programs, but the second I execute them it freezes.

I don't know if anyone has ever run into this? Otherwise I think it may just be an issue with the way I handle keyboard input.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 10:49 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Aug 30, 2002 9:02 pm
Posts: 1748
Location: Sacramento, CA
Does Ctrl-C work? Can you post your IO routines?

Daryl

_________________
Please visit my website -> https://sbc.rictor.org/


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 11:18 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Apr 16, 2017 2:35 am
Posts: 34
At


Code:
V_INPT

KEYSCAN:
         LDA VIAORB ; LOAD THE VALUE OF VIA PORT B. KBD DATA READY LINE IS HERE
         CMP #@00000111 ; IS DATA READY LOW?
         BEQ LOADKEY ; YES, LOAD KEY DATA
         JMP KEYSCAN ; NO, KEEP SCANNING DATA READY
LOADKEY: LDA VI2ORA ; LOAD ACC WITH ASCII DATA FROM KEYBOARD
         RTS ; GO BACK TO WHERE SUB WAS CALLED FROM                 


So this places the key data in A and returns to where it was called from. The CMP is kind of convoluted, but basically all bits are output expect the Data Ready input, bit 3. 0 and 1 are for the LCD, kept high beforehand, and then bit 2 is irrelevant, but kept high for the soundchip I have.

Below is my output routine

Code:
V_OUTP

         JSR ECHO ; PLACE ACC ON LCD
         RTS ; RETURN TO WHERE OUTPUT WAS CALLED FROM

...................................

ECHO:
     
      STA VIAORA ; STORES ACCUMULATOR ON LCD DATA LINES
      LDA #@00000111 ; LCD CHARACTER MODE, ENABLE HIGH. VIAORB SHOULD ALREADY HAVE THIS DATA BEFOREHAND, BUT JUST FOR SAFETY'S SAKE I ADDED IT
      STA VIAORB
      LDA #@00000101 ; LCD CHARACTER MODE, ENABLE LOW, READING DATA
      STA VIAORB
      JSR DELAYS ; DELAY, ALLOWING LCD TO PROCESS COMMAND
      LDA #@0000111 ; LCD CHARACTER MODE, ENABLE HIGH AGAIN. ALSO SETS VIA READY FOR KEYBOARD USE AGAIN
      STA VIAORB
      RTS
     
DELAYS: NOP ; GENERAL PURPOSE DELAY. ONLY USES NOP TO GIVE A DELAY WITHOUT DISRUPTING ANY REGISTERS.
        NOP
        NOP
        NOP
        NOP
        NOP
        NOP
        NOP
        RTS


NOP delay....yeah I know. I just wanted to see if my original delay with the X register made a difference, but it didn't.

Sorry if my code looks....lacking or bad or anything. Only been doing this for a month or 2. Haha.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2017 1:54 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Mar 01, 2017 8:54 pm
Posts: 660
Location: North-Germany
These LC displays are sometimes beasts. They claim to be compatible, but they aren't. Slightly different timing requirements and fine working code doesn't work anymore.

You should read very carefully the datasheet (that one what is exactly for your display) to dig out the information of how long the delays should be for the various commands. IIRC 'clear display' and 'home' (place cursor to first pos in first line), take longer than others.

Use long delays (start with something around 50ms). Once it works you can shorten them.

Next you should try output only. This way you can circumvent problems with char input (if any). Just try to print a sequence of characters. If it works sometimes, then you can try to figure out why only sometimes (perhaps only after power_off_on ?). This could be because something within the initialization is wrong or missing or done still too fast.

Some of these displays have controllers that can work with larger displays. Frequently 16x2 displays have a controller that is designed to work with 20x2 or even 20x4 lc-glasses. Then it is no error, if the first characters appear and then it seems to get freezed - you are writing into a display region that simply cannot be displayed.

I'm sure you will be successful 8)


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2017 2:01 am 
Offline

Joined: Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:03 am
Posts: 140
I think V_INPT should not wait for a char, just return the C flag to indicate Acc contains a char.

For example:
Code:
V_INPT
         LDA VIAORB ; LOAD THE VALUE OF VIA PORT B. KBD DATA READY LINE IS HERE
         AND #@00001000   (Is this the correct mask for kbd ready?) ; IS DATA READY LOW?
         CLC
         BNE V_INPT9
         LDA VI2ORA ; LOAD ACC WITH ASCII DATA FROM KEYBOARD
         SEC
V_INPT9
         RTS ; GO BACK TO WHERE SUB WAS CALLED FROM


I think your code is looking quite good for 2 months!


Last edited by leepivonka on Fri May 26, 2017 2:03 am, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2017 2:03 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Aug 30, 2002 1:09 am
Posts: 8546
Location: Southern California
Regarding the LCD: If you do what I show in my sample code linked above, you won't have problems. I have lots of sizes and brands of intelligent character LCDs here, and they all work with the same code. Since we got that first one going in about 1987, I have never had a problem with any of them. Not a one. But you do need that extra stuff in the reset routine that looks unnecessary.

_________________
http://WilsonMinesCo.com/ lots of 6502 resources
The "second front page" is http://wilsonminesco.com/links.html .
What's an additional VIA among friends, anyhow?


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2017 1:35 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Apr 16, 2017 2:35 am
Posts: 34
leepivonka wrote:
I think V_INPT should not wait for a char, just return the C flag to indicate Acc contains a char.

For example:
Code:
V_INPT
         LDA VIAORB ; LOAD THE VALUE OF VIA PORT B. KBD DATA READY LINE IS HERE
         AND #@00001000   (Is this the correct mask for kbd ready?) ; IS DATA READY LOW?
         CLC
         BNE V_INPT9
         LDA VI2ORA ; LOAD ACC WITH ASCII DATA FROM KEYBOARD
         SEC
V_INPT9
         RTS ; GO BACK TO WHERE SUB WAS CALLED FROM


I think your code is looking quite good for 2 months!



Thanks so much!

This code works as intended, but it is lagging a little bit as expected.

At any rate, it is more of the same. If I do a "PRINT" without anything after, it prints a CR, just like you'd expect. Is when I give it a value to print, or a string, etc. Then it freezes and I cannot control-C out of it. It doesn't like to process values or strings, it seems.

I run BASIC from my monitor, but I don't think my monitor would affect it. BASIC should just overwrite any of MY zero page usage from the monitor, right?

I don't know if it has to do with the way the buffers and everything are set up in ram. It needed me to set RAM base and buffer location before assembling. Perhaps I am setting these wrong?

I am only using a 16x2 LCD, so I know that I will be printing some data in a region of the screen controller that I can't see. I am hitting enter until the screen loops back around before confirming that BASIC is in act freezing. I ordered a 40x2 LCD which should be here soon. That will allow me to see everything, though I know BASIC is crashing.

I will use that LCD code, thank you Garth. That will rule out the LCD as any source of an issue. Thanks!


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2017 6:47 pm 
Offline

Joined: Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:03 am
Posts: 140
Have you changed V_INPT to not wait for a character from the keyboard?

From the EhBasic source:
;Input: This is a non halting scan of the input device. If a character is ready it should be placed in A
; and the carry flag set, if there is no character then A, and the carry flag, should be cleared.

I think the getting stuck problem is because your earlier V_INPT routine will not return until a keyboard character is available.
EhBasic calls V_INPT periodically while it's running a program to check for ctrl-c. If V_INPT waits for keyboard character instead of returning "no character available" when there is no keyboard character available, the running BASIC program will run part of a statement, wait for a keyboard character, run part of a statement, wait for a keyboard character, etc.
With enough keyboard characters entered the program should eventually run.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2017 10:30 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Apr 16, 2017 2:35 am
Posts: 34
So I currently do have it set where if no character is present, it clears carry and returns. It doesn't keep scanning the keyboard. If a key is pressed, it's loaded into the acc, carry set, and return. So it doesn't loop waiting for just a key press like before.

Still though, no luck. A few times it printed a ? on crash. Also, when I run it from monitor, I'm not asked cold or warm start. Does this matter?


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2017 3:31 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Aug 30, 2002 9:02 pm
Posts: 1748
Location: Sacramento, CA
Does it ask you for memory Size before in starts? That's the cold boot route.

Daryl

_________________
Please visit my website -> https://sbc.rictor.org/


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2017 3:54 am 
Offline

Joined: Sun Apr 16, 2017 2:35 am
Posts: 34
8BIT wrote:
Does it ask you for memory Size before in starts? That's the cold boot route.

Daryl


It does, yes. Also, another weird bug. PRINT "TEST" gives me a mismatch error. I should wait until I have 40 column screen to see everything. Or just port this for my ACIA in the mean time.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 51 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4  Next

All times are UTC


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: dmsc and 3 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to: