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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 7:37 pm 
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Got this board about a week ago, but I have no clue what flash chip to buy or how to program it.

The software tools didn't recognize the board, and I couldn't figure out how to load a binary anyway. So I wrote a hexfile processor which loads programs through the built-in monitor, which works very well.

But I guess the flash rom needs to be programmed separately before being inserted into the socket? If so that seems like a pain to me. If not, then how is it done? I couldn't find anything about it in the documentation.

This is a pretty nice board though. I'm impressed with the large number of I/O ports and the large connector could be used to interface into existing circuits. With a program loaded into flash rom, the 32k sram should be more than enough for most 16-bit microcontroller purposes.

It was $99, but worth it to have some "real hardware" to test stuff on. If anyone knows how to get the flash rom working I'd love to know, thank you.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 12:08 am 
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The flash ROM WDC have used is software programmable. According to the data sheet they are using two pins to control the top address bits A<17:16>.
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1 x 128Kbytes FLASH ROM (32PLCC Socket) mapped as upper 32KB of Memory Map with
overlays off of 2 IO pins from the W65C265S (P43 = FA15; P44 = FAMS).

On the 816SXB there are external pull ups resistors to make A<17:16> = %11 on start up you board is probably the same. Change the pins to low outputs to select the other banks. In my code I make the pin an input to return it to high.

The unlock sequence is documented in the flash ROM's data sheet. It consists of a sequence of writes of specific values at specific offsets from the base address of the ROM.

Make sure you get a copy of ROM before trying to write to it - just in case. The debugger has a memory export feature. I'd recommend test writing to a area where WDC don't have any code in their bank to start just in case it screws up.

Alternatively buy a spare flash ROM and a PLCC32 adaptor for use with an EEPROM programmer or build a circuit with another microcontroller to download code into it (e.g. PIC or AVR with USB Serial and a socket to hold the ROM). There were a couple of projects on here a year or so ago to build such circuits for DIP flash ROMS.

I have been working on a tool to download into my 816SXB but its not working yet - There's a bug in the XMODEM routine and I haven't had time to work on it. The code is here:

https://github.com/andrew-jacobs/w65c816sxb-hacker

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 4:22 pm 
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Thanks for all the info. There was no flash rom chip installed in the board, which is confusing because the datasheet has this in the feature list:

1 x 128Kbytes FLASH ROM (32PLCC Socket) mapped as upper 32KB of Memory Map with overlays off of 2 IO pins from the W65C265S (P43 = FA15; P44 = FAMS).

I can't find such a chip anywhere, they are all larger now. Will any 5V part work in this, even if the board can't access the entire thing?


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 7:57 pm 
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The socket takes a SST39SF010A (the same as the other SXBs). The W65C816SXB uses a 70nS version but you can get faster ones. The W65C265SXB is half the speed so a 70nS will work. I had a 55nS sample to hand that works nicely.

It should be writeable using software (I haven't tried this yet) but don't place the string 'WDC' at $00:8000 until you are completely sure the ROM works otherwise the monitor will transfer control to it at startup and your system could lock up until the ROM is removed.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 9:49 pm 
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Thank you VERY much.


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