6502.org Forum  Projects  Code  Documents  Tools  Forum
It is currently Sat Nov 23, 2024 11:57 pm

All times are UTC




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 19 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: RAM bus widths?
PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 7:16 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:28 pm
Posts: 10986
Location: England
In calculator terms, an emulator would use the original microcode whereas a simulator would be a recreation of the behaviour in a high level language. Naturally, the emulator would use more CPU, but the simulator might have slightly different quirks or even missing or extra features.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: RAM bus widths?
PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 7:50 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Aug 30, 2002 1:09 am
Posts: 8546
Location: Southern California
The first modules were being developed at the same time the calculator was, and they needed the emulator to test the electronics and make sure the timings and the various signals were going to work together between the calculator and the modules to make sure they had not overlooked something before going to production, especially because of custom ICs. More of this could be done in software today, but this was in the late 1970's.

_________________
http://WilsonMinesCo.com/ lots of 6502 resources
The "second front page" is http://wilsonminesco.com/links.html .
What's an additional VIA among friends, anyhow?


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: RAM bus widths?
PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 7:58 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:28 pm
Posts: 10986
Location: England
Ah, you're talking about a hardware emulator. Sorry. My statements were meant to compare two different types of after-the-fact software which is often written.

To be honest, I do find these pedantic interludes to be an overall negative: they break up the existing conversation, and don't make a significant improvement to communication. But how much worse when they are wrong!

Let's just have a sticky post somewhere which goes on at length about saying "compiler" when you mean "assembler" and the difference between "emulator" and "simulator" and never mention them ever again!

I'm now going to misspell Fourth, and capitalise Basic in an odd way.

Cheers
Ed


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: RAM bus widths?
PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 9:09 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu May 28, 2009 9:46 pm
Posts: 8513
Location: Midwestern USA
nyef wrote:
To stretch these boundaries to a rather silly extent, if I wired up an NES controller and a cartridge connector salvaged off of a Game Genie to my Raspberry Pi somehow, and patched my old NES "emulator" to take input from the controller and use the cartridge port instead of ROM images, and used the composite video output on the Pi, do I have an emulator, a simulator, or merely a frightening hack?

Sounds like a major consumer of electricity. So it must be emulating a Prius, no? :lol:

_________________
x86?  We ain't got no x86.  We don't NEED no stinking x86!


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 19 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2

All times are UTC


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot] and 101 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to: