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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 10:11 pm 
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I am trying to build a 6502 computer, and I am making a bootleg keyboard for the 6502 using push buttons. I don't want more than one button to be pushed at once so I need help building circuitry that drops current if two buttons are pressed., I know this is probably really simple, but im a noob :P

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 10:46 pm 
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James_Parsons wrote:
I am trying to build a 6502 computer, and I am making a bootleg keyboard for the 6502 using push buttons. I don't want more than one button to be pushed at once so I need help building circuitry that drops current if two buttons are pressed., I know this is probably really simple, but im a noob :P

You can put diodes in series with the buttons so one output line can't fight another one. Another way around it is that in the scanning, you only let one of the output bits be active at a time, and the others are high-impedance while the active one is pulling down. It has the effect of being like an open-collector output, and the only pull-ups are passive. There's no excess current that way. You might have outputs feeding the rows and inputs reading the columns, or vice-versa.

There are some keyboard and keypad ideas in the keypads and keyboards section of the potpourri page of the 6502 primer.

You'll want to pay attention to debouncing. Do it in software to make it easier.

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James_Parsons wrote:
I am trying to build a 6502 computer, and I am making a bootleg keyboard for the 6502 using push buttons. I don't want more than one button to be pushed at once so I need help building circuitry that drops current if two buttons are pressed., I know this is probably really simple, but im a noob :P

How many push buttons are you planning to use? If it's more than a few you may want to rethink their use. Cheap matrix keyboards are readily available and you can rig up a 65C22 to decode one and generate a unique number for each keypress.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 2:08 pm 
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its only going to be a hex keyboard with some command buttons, but if you could suggest one of the matrx keyboards id be more than happy to try them

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 7:44 pm 
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its only going to be a hex keyboard with some command buttons, but if you could suggest one of the matrx keyboards id be more than happy to try them

Search engines are your friend with stuff like this. Fire up Ixquick and see what you can find. Also, don't forget eBay.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 8:30 pm 
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James_Parsons wrote:
its only going to be a hex keyboard with some command buttons, but if you could suggest one of the matrx keyboards id be more than happy to try them

A couple that look good are these two at Jameco:
http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/stores ... _196171_-1 (2x8)
http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/stores ... _152063_-1 (4x4)
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I have used, and like, the Grayhill 87 type. They take .5" square per key, and can be stacked into whatever dimensions you want, all soldered into standard prototyping board with holes on .1" centers. They have transparent key caps that you can put your own labled under. I used them in this keypad shown in the potpourri page of the 6502 primer:

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and in the automated test equipment:

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Grayhill's .pdf page on it is at http://www.grayhill.com/assets/1/7/Keypads_87.pdf

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 5:05 pm 
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GARTHWILSON wrote:
I have used, and like, the Grayhill 87 type.

Same here. It's a high quality unit.

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