Hi it is mee again. I was wondering how to programm a chip. I got all the software I need for the job I was just wondering about what type of hardware I need where I can get it or if it is possible to make it. thanx.

Corona_and_Lime

>I was wondering how to programm a chip. I got all the >software I need for the job I was just wondering about what >type of hardware I need where I can get it or if it is >possible to make it.

Maybe it's just me, but I don't understand the question.
What chip do you want to program?
Do you mean something like "how do I program a 2716 EPROM?"?
When you say: "I've got all the software..." - what software do you have?

Pete

Like the software I got is compilers and emulators. and the chips are all different kinds such as the 6502, 6522,6560 Iand a bunch of others that i have got. I dont know I dont even understand my self. I am going to bed and will try to wright back later. thanx.

Corona_and_Lime

Unfortunately I haven't gotten around to writing up the tutorials and programming sections on www.6502.org yet. If anyone is interested in helping with these please send me some e-mail.

"Corona": I would recommend that you purchase one of the printed circuit boards we are working on once they are completed. Through experimenting with it you'll gain an understanding of the different chips and what they do. The printed circuit board only requires you to program one chip (an EPROM). We will be offering a simple preprogrammed EPROM with a monitor program so you might not need to burn anything depending on how you use the board.

You should go to the www.6502.org site and download the datasheets for the different chips you have. These will tell you more about what you have and what can be done with them.

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ok cool. but i still dont understand this whole programming of the chip thing I have been all over this thing they call the inter net and aint found nothin I want to know (although I have learned alot). Any one know the answer to the question? anyways I would just go and buy a chip but like hey I aint got no money so I rip stuff apart and find what I need . anyways I am allso thinking about upgrading my C-64 if anyone has any suggestions on how I sould do it tell me. thanx

Corona_and_Lime

You might want to start by getting a PIC-based board that is assembled and ready to go, such as a "BASIC stamp" board from Parallax.

Also, go to the library and find a book on 'intro to microprocessors' and such.

Pete

I definitely agree with you there Pete. The 6502 is a great processor with a fun instruction set. For the beginner it is great to learn on if you have a ready-made board to play with. However, trying to put together a small 6502-based computer, wiring all the address and data lines of each chip with soldering or wirewrap, can be difficult. Especially if you have no experience with electronics or soldering. Even my minimalist 6504 computer can be tough for a beginner.

Compare this to the BASIC Stamp; all you have to do is buy it and start writing simple programs that produce results without headaches. You can build an understanding of how it works and then move up to move involved systems as your knowledge and skills progress. That might be an better way to start out.

Many years ago I tried to make my first working computer from scratch. I built it with point-to-point soldering. I had experience soldering, but nothing that complex. It took me three tries and a great deal of frustration before I got it to do anything at all. Although I did get a great sense of accomplishment from it, I think that maybe I would have had a little more fun if things started out easier.

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