6502.org Forum  Projects  Code  Documents  Tools  Forum
It is currently Sun Nov 24, 2024 5:14 am

All times are UTC




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 3 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2024 3:40 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Nov 23, 2004 2:11 pm
Posts: 27
Location: London, UK
Hi all,

So I was just patching a data transfer routine to insert a delay which had been forgotten. I'd freed 5 bytes into which a delay of 13 cycles had to be coded. As everything except Y was available this was straightforward:
Code:
            LSR     $0D52         ;wait 6.5 microseconds
            PHA
            PLA
Then I remembered from somewhere that some later MPUs could write back the shifted value on the fifth cycle and skip the sixth, while the ALU updates the flags in parallel, but INC and DEC have to go through the ALU; so to be sure of a consistent delay I plumped for INC, which also preserves C.

Browsing the datasheets hasn't revealed any parts with this speed-up; but to rule out the chips this code might run on, do you know which, if any, do? At this point I'm not sure where I got the idea.

Thanks,

Greg


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2024 3:51 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:28 pm
Posts: 10986
Location: England
Perhaps check this section of Bruce's doc on the C02
    7. Instructions with different cycle counts


    Top
     Profile  
    Reply with quote  
    PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2024 4:30 pm 
    Offline

    Joined: Tue Nov 23, 2004 2:11 pm
    Posts: 27
    Location: London, UK
    Thanks for your reference and quick reply, you've encouraged me to look deeper.

    Now I see that the MOS 65CE02 spends 5 cycles on LSR abs but 5 on INC abs as well. The WDC 65C02S says 6 cycles for both. GTE G65SC02-A concurs, with 6 cycles each, as does the G65SC802. So which one is this mysterious chip?


    Top
     Profile  
    Reply with quote  
    Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
    Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 3 posts ] 

    All times are UTC


    Who is online

    Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 33 guests


    You cannot post new topics in this forum
    You cannot reply to topics in this forum
    You cannot edit your posts in this forum
    You cannot delete your posts in this forum
    You cannot post attachments in this forum

    Search for:
    Jump to: