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6502inside
PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 1:56 am 
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I strongly suspect quite a few DTVs and toy electronics thought to use NES-on-a-chip hardware (which is also on-topic, being descended from the 2A03, which is a 6502 with no decimal mode) may in fact use the Winbonds with an embedded 65C816. The suspicious signs include a 27MHz oscillator and 320x240 graphics. Here are two, probably three.

https://oldvcr.blogspot.com/2024/06/two ... soles.html

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 5:47 pm 
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Interesting article.  However, I have a bone to pick with whomever set up that page.

There is an annoying trend in the Internet universe to use #&$^%*&#$^ pastel fonts that are barely readable.  This particular page uses a light grey font on a white background.  Did the bozo who composed the page even think about how that combination’s minimal contrast just possibly might be difficult reading for an older person with dubious vision?  Does he or she think everyone who is roaming the web is 20 years old with 20/20 vision and perfect color perception?

Yes, I am able to turn off page styles in my browser to render the text in a higher and much-more-readable contrast, but why should I be forced to do so?  If you want me to look at your website, how about if you make it readable?

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Sorry, I just used the default template.

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Oh, 6502inside, I didn't realize that's your page.  Yeah, that's awfully hard to read.  If you can deviate from the default, and make it black text against a white background, that'd be great.  I don't know why this "softened" text is so popular with developers.  There's nothing wrong with my own vision (other than needing -2 dioptre correction for distance), but the softened writing dramatically reduces my reading speed and comprehension, both.  I did a <Ctrl>U to see your html source code, and a <Ctrl>F (find) for "color," and I see loads of lines specifying color, but I'm not sure which one governs the standard text.  It might be the one specifying 222222.  If that's the one, changing it to 000000 will help.

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Looking this morning, a change to the text colour appears to have been made: thanks indeed.

Like BDD and Garth, I too am of a certain age and while my eyes are fine after lens correction, low contrast text is a pain. (Another I saw recently was an otherwise excellent article for which the writer had chosen ALL CAPS, rendering it half as legible as it might have otherwise been).

Thanks for changing it.

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Ah yes, much better!  Thank you!!

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Yep!  Reading it is a breeze with the improved contrast.

barnacle wrote:
(Another I saw recently was an otherwise excellent article for which the writer had chosen ALL CAPS, rendering it half as legible as it might have otherwise been).

And then there are those folks who do it in all lower-case, with no paragraph breaks and a paucity of punctuation...

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It's a (maybe!) interesting observation to note how much meta-information there is in printed (and by extension, on-screen) text. Curiously, it's one of the weaknesses of optical character recognition that it generally is able to exactly replicate the original format without in any way understanding that meta-information.

Typesetting is a skilled job...

(None of this is a criticism of 6502inside; thanks to him for making the changes).

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barnacle wrote:
Typesetting is a skilled job...

Yep!  My late step-father was in the printing industry his entire career (nearly 47 years).  He worked his way up from being a typsetter to an executive, but even after becoming an executive, he would still get out on the press floor and get his hands dirty, in a manner of speaking.  I was fascinated by what it took to compose one page of text...and he and his crew produced entire catalogs for Sears and other retailers back in the day.  Very meticulous work, and artistic in order to produce attractive page layouts.  Kids who think they are masters of composing web pages today can’t appreciate what it took back then without a computer doing all the hand-holding.

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