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Have you looked at Michal Kowalski's assembler and simulator? http://exifpro.com/utils.html

If it is missing features that you require, the source code is available so it may be possible to add features to it rather than start from scratch.

What do you mean by "preallocated memory locations"?
Aside from that (and what it may imply), I think that the features you are looking for is all achievbale with current tools.

Any text editor worth your time will have syntax highlighting capability. It's just a question of acquiring, or more likely writing syntax definitions for it.
Macros come with most assemblers. "Named variables" are achievable using labels, which are also a fairly standard feature of an assembler.
Memory maps, ROM routines, hardware addresses, and the like are all easily handled by an include file.
Error detection is already partially handled. The assembler will tell you if it encounters a syntax error. I don't think that a logic error is detectable in assembly, as it is in a higher-level language. Obvious inefficiencies, such as a LDA followed by a CMP #0 can be fairly readily found using grep. There are enough of the obvious inefficencies that you would want to make a script to do it.

I think that the features you are looking for are mostly fairly easy to achieve using a text editor, a terminal, and pre-existing tools. The only exception to this is if you are looking for these "named variables" to be auto-allocated. I am not aware of a standalone tool that does this, but it is a solved problem(modern compilers do it), so it can be done.

Given that all this is possible without a dedicated IDE, I don't see that constructing one would give a significant benefit/advantage, as I've been using an editor and terminal DE for a fair while now, and it's completely functional.
I have to say I use Linux for development, mainly because I find it so much easier than on Windows.

In addition, Eclipse is written in Java. And it has a plugin system that I believe uses Java(I've never used it, so I can't say for sure).

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What's an additional VIA among friends, anyhow?

The above link is out of date. Check here for the latest version of the Kowalski simulator.

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I've never really used an IDE but I understand that it's a matter of preference and habit: if you do a lot of work in an IDE, that's how you like to work. In a large project an IDE can provide useful cross-referencing capabilities so you can find the usages corresponding to a definition, or the definition corresponding to a usage.

May be of interest, ASM80.com, an in-browser IDE by Martin Malý.

See also in the reference section of this site:

6502.org: Development Tools: Assemblers and Disassemblers

(which includes IDEs)

Edit: to include quote of the head post

Currently I just use Visual Studio Code with a syntax highlighting plug-in for CA65 plus either a make file or shell script for building projects. From what I remember, modifying the plug-in for another assembler's syntax didn't look that hard, it's just a matter of editing some XML or JSON formatted data (I forget which).

In the past I've used Peter Dell's WUDSN IDE, which is well respected in the Atari 8-bit community. See http://www.wudsn.com/index.php/ide. This is Eclipse based and has a good degree of integration with supported assemblers and emulators. For example, using MADS, an outline is generated from .local scopes, .procs etc. which is useful for navigating larger source files and projects. WUDSN is Atari focused, but not completely Atari specific.

Jeremy

What's your current development environment like, and do you have a target 6502 system in-mind? The target might well dictate (to a degree) what sort of environment you use. (The key thing might be how to get your code into the target system in the first instance)

I use a somewhat old/traditional (for Unix) environment - separate editor, compiler/assembler/linker (cc65/ca65) with a Makefile to get my binary code which I can then transfer via serial line to the filing system of my own 6502 system, but if I were developing code for a BBC Micro, I'd use it's built-in assembler, or for an Apple II I might use one of it's (many!) assemblers like TED II+ and so on.

-Gordon

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http://WilsonMinesCo.com/ lots of 6502 resources
The "second front page" is http://wilsonminesco.com/links.html .
What's an additional VIA among friends, anyhow?

Oh, that's unfortunate. I hate to see conversations decimated.

Sounds more like someone's account being taken over by a spammer, rather than a well-behaved member suddenly changing their nature.

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http://WilsonMinesCo.com/ lots of 6502 resources
The "second front page" is http://wilsonminesco.com/links.html .
What's an additional VIA among friends, anyhow?

I feel there's a confusion here between what an account does and what a person is like.

As you know, I do my share of spam-destruction, in my case over on anycpu, so I do have an idea of the territory.

A ban would prevent an account from doing any further damage, I think, and spam posts can be deleted, but I think it would be a bit more involved to remove their signature.

Hmm, doesn't that reinforce the idea that the person's account has been taken over by a spammer?

Still, the spammy content needs to be removed. As for trying to preserve the poster's non-spammy content, or making any other accommodation, that decision is in Mike's hands. And he and Garth do a lot already... (and you too, Ed, over on Anycpu)

-- Jeff

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I recall some bunkum about angel numbers where a message about astrology segued into a reference to an Atmel data-sheet. Regulars of the 6502 Forum will know that WDC data-sheets are more closely associated with astrology.

(Only joking. I quite like the WDC data-sheets.)



The historical owner of an account may not be the current owner. This may or may not be intentional. However, if an account plagiarizes from the outset then that is bad intent.

I've noticed a rising tide of spam and I believe that it has grown by approximately 1/3 over the last five years. We should count ourselves as fortunate because many websites have the problem that legitimate users are the minority. I believe this is called "The Inversion". To avert such a scenario, we have one last, desperate option which is not available in the general case. We discuss Turing complete electronic systems. Therefore, if spam gets really bad, we could instigate bytecode challenge/response running on Mike Naberezny's Py65 or physical tokens. Unfortunately, this would discourage a large proportion of newbies. However, it would definitely discourage one message "drive by spamming".

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I'd point out C64 Studio, which isn't currently in the 6502 wiki:
https://www.georg-rottensteiner.de/en/c64.html

I searched for an IDE myself and settled on this. I had a lot of input to fix over 50 bugs and add new features for 7.5.