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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 7:37 pm 
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available for pre-order   (Edit: link fixed)
https://corei64.com/shop/index.php?rout ... uct_id=445
features, from that page:
- (BOTTOM LEFT) optional step LED in place of the original power LED.
- illuminated logo
- 5-bar LED illuminated light bars that roll on drive writing
- drive reset button
- track and half track display
- tracker sync button
- diskette density indicator
- drive device ID selector button
- drive device ID display
- drive ROM selector button
- drive ROM selection indicators (1 through 4)
- 1541 logo that Illuminates blue when diskette is write-protected
- [AUDIO FEATURE] plays sounds representing data density, and sync marks (may be turned on/off with onboard jumper

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My apologies for the initial wrong link.  I have no idea how that happened.  Anyway, it's fixed now.

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At the risk of being viewed as an overly-critical stick-in-the-mud, I fail to see how the price of $250 plus shipping can possibly be justified.

BTW, the website design is bad news for anyone with significant vision problems.  The text is so light I can’t read it except by disable page styles in my browser.

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BigDumbDinosaur wrote:
At the risk of being viewed as an overly-critical stick-in-the-mud, I fail to see how the price of $250 plus shipping can possibly be justified.


Everyones gotten greedy these days (is one way to look at it), however it probably reflects the time those 3 people have put into it for the design, hardware, software and physical build.

Something we used to call NRE (Non-Recoverable Expenditure) in times past, but everyone needs and wants their dollar now.

And a lot of retro enthusiasts are cash rich, so lets capitalise on that...

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BTW, the website design is bad news for anyone with significant vision problems.  The text is so light I can’t read it except by disable page styles in my browser.


It's not that bad - I've seen a lot worse, but yes, there is a current trend for pages to be somewhat feint and lacking in contrast - hard not just for older folks but people like me with dyslexia too. Damn those young millenials. Bah.

I am somewhat bemused by it though - do we need to see what track the dive is on? Or need to be told that the drive is busy... I wonder what I'm missing out on...

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I'm not really into C64's myself, only have a little fondness because of their huge part in home-computer history.  I only posted in case someone would be interested.  At the end of its production run, the C64 was quite inexpensive, but I'm not sure the disc drives ever were.  Adjusted for inflation, the 1541's introductory price was about $1275 of today's money.

About the appearance of that page:  Yes, I almost said something about that.  I see that kind of thing and yell at the monitor (as if the page's creators could hear me), "Why do you make it so hard to read?!"  There's nothing wrong with my own visual acuity, and I don't have cataracts or any such thing; but gray writing dramatically reduces my reading speed and comprehension.  It's not cool, and it certainly does not make the page more attractive.  For anyone here who has their own sites, please, please make the writing black, color code 000000.

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I am somewhat bemused by it though - do we need to see what track the dive is on? Or need to be told that the drive is busy... I wonder what I'm missing out on...

I thought that maybe the product addressed the 1541’s feeble performance or notorious unreliability, but didn’t see anything that suggested this product is anything more than an overpriced cosmetic enhancement of dubious end-user value.

Yes, I’m being brutal.  :evil:

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GARTHWILSON wrote:
For anyone here who has their own sites, please, please make the writing black, color code 000000.

...on a light-colored background.

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What? Not 00,00,00 on a 10,10,10 background? But that's so stylish! :mrgreen: Dark blue on a black ground is a particular peeve of mine, but I still dislike low contrast text. There's a reason pencils are generally black...

Didn't someone say 'the medium is not the message'? But didn't add the corollary: the medium shouldn't get in the way of the message...

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What? Not 00,00,00 on a 10,10,10 background? But that's so stylish! :mrgreen: Dark blue on a black ground is a particular peeve of mine, but I still dislike low contrast text. There's a reason pencils are generally black...

Didn't someone say 'the medium is not the message'? But didn't add the corollary: the medium shouldn't get in the way of the message...

Being partially color-blind, I often run into websites I can’t view without disabling styles in my browser.  If the site is trying to sell something, I just move on.  I can’t understand this mania for low-contrast web pages.  Do their authors really think everyone wandering on the so-called information superhighway is a teenager with 20/20 vision and perfect color perception?

As for color in electrical schematics...  :evil:

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This is a cool device, though the Indus GT sort of scratches this itch for me. Also I really prefer the 1571, especially since my daily 8-bit driver is a Commodore 128DCR.

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This is a cool device, though the Indus GT sort of scratches this itch for me. Also I really prefer the 1571, especially since my daily 8-bit driver is a Commodore 128DCR.

Back in my Commodore days, I used an MSD dual drive connected through a Skyles IEEE-488 interface, first with a C-64 and then with a C-128.  Being able to copy disk-to-disk with a terse command was really handy.  However, the MSD drive didn’t have the capacity I needed, so I went with a pair of SFD-1001 drives.  Disk-to-disk copying wasn’t as convenient with them, but the 1 MB per disk capacity was what I needed at the time.

In 1987, I purchased two C-128DCR units and a Lt. Kernal subsystem with multiplexer on which to do software development.  That was the end of using floppy storage, except for loading software or transferring it to another system.

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The MSDs were solid, I agree. I have two of those (and an SFD-1001 around here somewhere). But nowadays copying consists of plugging the 1571 into the ZoomFloppy and making a .d64 ...

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