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 Post subject: Re: C64 and C128
PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 10:59 pm 
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10$ for the transformer and $120.00 for shipping, no thanks...
I can get a custom made here locally for ~40$ !


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 Post subject: Re: C64 and C128
PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:38 am 
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Dajgoro wrote:
10$ for the transformer and $120.00 for shipping, no thanks...
I can get a custom made here locally for ~40$ !

Yikes! Nothing like getting a 10 dollar part for 130 dollars. Surely there must be some other source.

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 Post subject: Re: C64 and C128
PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:32 pm 
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The 9VAC is used to run the tape drive, time-of-day clocks, and to generate 12VDC to power the SID chip. None of these are actually essential to have the C64 running. The jiffy timer is based off of the CIA clock-based timers, not the TOD. If you have 5VDC and 12VDC, you can use the 12VDC to power up the SID and forget about the rest. You should be able to run just 5VDC with no audio as well.

The VIC-II does not need 12VDC, but the RF modulator might. Again, that's really not a loss at all if that's left dormant.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 4:53 pm 
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In breadbin (rounder) c64's 9vac is also used for a separate 5v supply to the video IC. In flat/c64c versions, it's not 100% necessary, but you'll get no audio.


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 Post subject: Re: C64 and C128
PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:14 pm 
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Some hardware extensions, like eprom burners do need the 9V~ at the userport.

White Flame wrote:
If you have 5VDC and 12VDC, you can use the 12VDC to power up the SID and forget about the rest. You should be able to run just 5VDC with no audio as well.
In essence you’re right. But is it that trivial?

Keep in mind that the HMOS SID 8580 needs 9V instead of 12V. However, I suppose you’d disconnect the two voltage regulators and feed the 5V and 12V at those points? Also the normal 5V, which comes from the regular power supply has to be connected with the same 5V?

Perhaps it would be a good idea to determine which C64 version you have Dajgoro. A picture of the main board would suffice.

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 Post subject: Re: C64 and C128
PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:40 pm 
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In systems with the HMOS SID, there's a zener diode that limits the voltage to the sound chip. 12v would be safe to inject before the regulator circuit built into the system.


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 Post subject: Re: C64 and C128
PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 5:10 am 
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Hey jbevren, LTNS.

There are a few projects out there within easy google reach for converting C64s to use PC power supplies, with various hardware revisions & goals. I agree that there might be some revisions which have more issues than others, so it might not be a one size fits all. But there is a reasonable chance that it will be a simple as adding a 5VDC and optionally 12VDC lead into your motherboard.

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 Post subject: Re: C64 and C128
PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2014 2:29 pm 
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I heard about a replacement power supply:

http://c128.com/ray-carlsens-new-c64128 ... pplies#new


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 Post subject: Re: C64 and C128
PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 12:18 am 
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I don't know if anyone else has posted this yet, but there are at least a half dozen C64/C128 power supplies on eBay right now. Cheapest I saw was around $16 + shipping.

C64/C128 is a great machine although if you any extensive disk work you'll find those serial drives very slow.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 8:19 am 
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I have a whole box of 9VAC wall warts. Surely I'm not the only one.


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 Post subject: Re: C64 and C128
PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2015 2:50 am 
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http://www.jameco.com/1/3/9vac-power-supply


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