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https://www.jameco.com/z/TL866-3G-T48-Jameco-ValuePro-USB-High-Performance-Programmer-3rd-Generation-_2304999.html?CID=MERCH

Hi Gordon,

I bought my TL866II+ from Jameco

Interesting...I just downloaded the user manual for the 3G one, and they translated the text from Chinese, but some of the screenshot images there are still all Chinese. Some good that'll do me! I got the TL866II+ but have never used it yet. I'm pretty sure I had to get the Linux driver software from a third party. I wonder if I should just step up to the newer model.

I'm pretty sure I had to get the Linux driver software from a third party.

Hi all,
@drogon : There is another way, if you're just looking to program GALs and the newer ATF16V / ATF22V "flash" substitutes : it's called afterburner, it's normally designed to be an Arduino shield, but the interface is so simple that it can be cobbled directly to almost any Atmel 8-bit controller on a breadboard.
I'm still waiting for my chinese T48 clone to arrive, but in the meantime I've built and had good results with the afterburner setup. I'm also a Linux-only shop.
The one I used is ole00/afterburner, although a few others exist. I can send you a bare shield PCB if you like.
Good luck.

P.S. Does anyone think it useful to document a complete toolchain tutorial for the ATF16V8 / ATF22V10 devices, as they are often mentioned and used for address decoding and sometimes even VGA video generation... I can document my trials and tribulations (from a Linux point of view, though)

I got mine from amazon:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07CDD9PGT

It programs ATF22V10's correctly as far as I can tell, along with a few types of FLASH/EEPROM/MCU that I've used (39SF0x0, CAT28C16, W27C512, ATmega328).
This particular listing doesn't seem to be in stock at the moment, but there are a few other listings that look like the same device.

Author:	drogon [ Mon Nov 06, 2023 8:29 pm ]
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Anyone know of a reputable UK supplier for the above? I've just had to return one mis-advertised by an ebay seller (who's still selling them - Hmph) however the ebay return service actually worked and I got my money back... I have the TL866A but I need the II Plus which can program Atmel GALs which the TL866A can't. Thanks, -Gordon

Author:	Paganini [ Tue Nov 07, 2023 4:24 pm ]
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Hi Gordon, I bought my TL866II+ from Jameco. Their website says that production of the TL866II+ has been discontinued, but I see that they have a new (and more expensive!) 3rd generation version with a fancy Aries socket for sale. https://www.jameco.com/z/TL866-3G-T48-J ... ?CID=MERCH I see that it exceeds the TL866II+ in just about every respect, so hopefully it hasn't lost the ability to program GALs!

Author:	GARTHWILSON [ Tue Nov 07, 2023 7:15 pm ]
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Interesting...I just downloaded the user manual for the 3G one, and they translated the text from Chinese, but some of the screenshot images there are still all Chinese. Some good that'll do me! I got the TL866II+ but have never used it yet. I'm pretty sure I had to get the Linux driver software from a third party. I wonder if I should just step up to the newer model.

Author:	BigDumbDinosaur [ Tue Nov 07, 2023 7:18 pm ]
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Paganini wrote: https://www.jameco.com/z/TL866-3G-T48-Jameco-ValuePro-USB-High-Performance-Programmer-3rd-Generation-_2304999.html?CID=MERCH Strange how Jameco claims it is their brand on the product page. Also, I saw what Garth was referring to in the downloadable manual. Are you sure that programmer is the real McCoy?

Author:	drogon [ Tue Nov 07, 2023 10:21 pm ]
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Paganini wrote: Hi Gordon, I bought my TL866II+ from Jameco Thanks, but not a UK supplier. -Gordon

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Author:	drogon [ Wed Nov 08, 2023 12:04 pm ]
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GARTHWILSON wrote: Interesting...I just downloaded the user manual for the 3G one, and they translated the text from Chinese, but some of the screenshot images there are still all Chinese. Some good that'll do me! I got the TL866II+ but have never used it yet. I'm pretty sure I had to get the Linux driver software from a third party. I wonder if I should just step up to the newer model. If you do, then please let me know - part of the reason I'm looking for the II+ is because there is Linux software for it which I've used on my older (and as it turned out, clone!) IIA... https://gitlab.com/DavidGriffith/minipro/ My old WinXP laptop I used with the G540 programmer to program Lattice GALs dies a death a while back and I'd really like to move to the Atmel ones which are in being made rather than run the risk of using recycled imports (Which, admittedly I have had good success with in the past) Cheers, -Gordon

Author:	and3rson [ Mon Nov 27, 2023 12:43 am ]
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GARTHWILSON wrote: I'm pretty sure I had to get the Linux driver software from a third party. I don't think TL866II+ needs any special drivers - I've been successfully using it with minipro out of the box (https://gitlab.com/DavidGriffith/minipro) for programming EPROMs, GALs & AVR MCUs. I've gotten so used to it that I barely ever program anything by other means.

Author:	GlennSmith [ Sat Dec 30, 2023 1:15 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Reputable source for a TL866II Plus programmer?
Hi all, @drogon : There is another way, if you're just looking to program GALs and the newer ATF16V / ATF22V "flash" substitutes : it's called afterburner, it's normally designed to be an Arduino shield, but the interface is so simple that it can be cobbled directly to almost any Atmel 8-bit controller on a breadboard. I'm still waiting for my chinese T48 clone to arrive, but in the meantime I've built and had good results with the afterburner setup. I'm also a Linux-only shop. The one I used is ole00/afterburner, although a few others exist. I can send you a bare shield PCB if you like. Good luck. P.S. Does anyone think it useful to document a complete toolchain tutorial for the ATF16V8 / ATF22V10 devices, as they are often mentioned and used for address decoding and sometimes even VGA video generation... I can document my trials and tribulations (from a Linux point of view, though)

Author:	drogon [ Sat Dec 30, 2023 1:28 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Reputable source for a TL866II Plus programmer?
GlennSmith wrote: Hi all, @drogon : There is another way, if you're just looking to program GALs and the newer ATF16V / ATF22V "flash" substitutes : it's called afterburner, it's normally designed to be an Arduino shield, but the interface is so simple that it can be cobbled directly to almost any Atmel 8-bit controller on a breadboard. I'm still waiting for my chinese T48 clone to arrive, but in the meantime I've built and had good results with the afterburner setup. I'm also a Linux-only shop. The one I used is ole00/afterburner, although a few others exist. I can send you a bare shield PCB if you like. Good luck. Hi, Thanks. Yes, this is for the Atmel (Microchip) GALs as I can program the Lattice ones OK (For now, using a creaky old XP laptop and a G540 programmer) I've looked at Afterburner, but not had the enthusiasm (so-far) to actually make one. I've also just had the option of getting a genuine II+ from the US, although it'll cost me dearly in import duties, etc. Hope that "clone" works OK - it turned out my TL8662A was a clone and when trying to upgrade it, it was "helpfully" deliberately bricked (for using under Win, but it still runs OK under Linux and the minipro code) Quote: P.S. Does anyone think it useful to document a complete toolchain tutorial for the ATF16V8 / ATF22V10 devices, as they are often mentioned and used for address decoding and sometimes even VGA video generation... I can document my trials and tribulations (from a Linux point of view, though) Yes - but it boils down to 2 options: GALasm which is woefully lacking in documentation or CUPL under Wine - I did try to install the latter, but getting wine32 running under a 64-bit Linux seemed like a lot of work, so left it there... Cheers, -Gordon

Author:	kernelthread [ Sun Dec 31, 2023 4:10 pm ]
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I got mine from amazon: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07CDD9PGT It programs ATF22V10's correctly as far as I can tell, along with a few types of FLASH/EEPROM/MCU that I've used (39SF0x0, CAT28C16, W27C512, ATmega328). This particular listing doesn't seem to be in stock at the moment, but there are a few other listings that look like the same device.

Author:	drogon [ Sun Dec 31, 2023 5:05 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Reputable source for a TL866II Plus programmer?
kernelthread wrote: I got mine from amazon: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07CDD9PGT It programs ATF22V10's correctly as far as I can tell, along with a few types of FLASH/EEPROM/MCU that I've used (39SF0x0, CAT28C16, W27C512, ATmega328). This particular listing doesn't seem to be in stock at the moment, but there are a few other listings that look like the same device. Thanks. Been through these with a fine toothed comb. They're either TL866A's (and likely old clones at that) or the newer ones with the old beige image. It's not urgent for now as I've resurrected the old XP Laptop I use with the G540 and Lattice GALs, but one might turn up eventually, or the chap who does the minipro software will upgrade to the newer ones (I did contact him - it's on his 'to do' list, but nowhere near the top, for now). Cheers, -Gordon

Author:	6502inside [ Mon Jan 01, 2024 10:50 pm ]
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Got bit by this myself by an idiot eBay dropshipper who sent me a T48 (instead of the advertised TL866-II) that minipro doesn't like. Now I'm trying to get my money back. If others have a suggestion for a Linux-compatible burner where I can compile the driver from source (we're Power ISA around here) ...

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