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PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 4:04 pm 
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I have finally gotten around to putting a page together for a rather obscure piece of 6502 related hardware, the Infotron System IF65. There probably aren't many of these out in the wild, but just in case someone runs across one I hope this documentation will be helpful.

Back in the late 80's and early 90's I worked for Infotron Systems (later Gandalf Technologies) which manufactured data communications equipment. A lot of Infotron’s equipment was based on the 6502 microprocessor, so much so that they designed and manufactured their own 6502 in circuit emulator the IF65. The IF65 was a great tool for both developing embedded 6502 software and for troubleshooting 6502 hardware. The IF65 was mainly used in house, but I know of at least one other company that Infotron sold them to. Fortunately, I ran across a working IF65 at a flea market a long time ago. Since there isn’t much information about this device online I decided it would be a good idea to document it the things that I remember about out.


http://atarihq.com/danb/IF65.shtml


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Welcome, and thankyou for the post. I remember American Automation was a mainstream manufacturer of 6502 (and other) emulators. Is there a reason the company you worked for didn't use them? (I think they were about $10K though.)

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Thanks for taking the time to document this.

In case you are interested, I've done some work recently on a modern-day equivalent:
https://github.com/hoglet67/AtomBusMon/wiki

I'd love to get a better understanding of how these old ICE systems worked, and what there limitations were. I take it you don't have a full set of schematics? It would be really fun to try to re-create this in modern hardware (but in such a way that the original firmware could be used).

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GARTHWILSON wrote:
Welcome, and thankyou for the post. I remember American Automation was a mainstream manufacturer of 6502 (and other) emulators. Is there a reason the company you worked for didn't use them? (I think they were about $10K though.)


These were already in use when I started there and I never heard why they decided to build their own. Since they were a datacom company they also designed and manufactured their own bit error rate tester (see below). When they moved onto other processors they did purchase off the shelf units.

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hoglet wrote:
Thanks for taking the time to document this.

In case you are interested, I've done some work recently on a modern-day equivalent:
https://github.com/hoglet67/AtomBusMon/wiki

I'd love to get a better understanding of how these old ICE systems worked, and what there limitations were. I take it you don't have a full set of schematics? It would be really fun to try to re-create this in modern hardware (but in such a way that the original firmware could be used).

Dave


That looks like a pretty cool device, I have to look into that one a little more.

I am currently working on reverse engineering the units and creating a set of schematics for it along with a ROM dump. I'll post here when I have something to show.


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danlb_2000 wrote:
I am currently working on reverse engineering the units and creating a set of schematics
Awesome! -- I'll definitely look forward to those. :) And, any chance of some photos of the exterior of the unit?

Cheers (and welcome),
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hoglet wrote:
In case you are interested, I've done some work recently on a modern-day equivalent:
https://github.com/hoglet67/AtomBusMon/wiki

I wonder if you could include MC6800 in your capabilities.


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