Motorola could have followed Intel to make faster versions: pipelining, single-cycle simple instructions…
They did actually get that far, at least. The 68040 and 68060 are roughly equivalent to the 486 and Pentium Classic respectively, having similar architectures with in-order pipelined and, in ...
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- Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:04 am
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Whats the most human-friendly instruction set?
- Replies: 52
- Views: 18753
- Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:32 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Whats the most human-friendly instruction set?
- Replies: 52
- Views: 18753
Re: Whats the most human-friendly instruction set?
Appreciating that not every pet architecture can be stuffed into a single poll, here's my assessment of the options provided:
6502 & 65816 were never really intended to be easy for humans to work with. They're simple enough that doing so is tractable, but you need a lot of experience to make the ...
6502 & 65816 were never really intended to be easy for humans to work with. They're simple enough that doing so is tractable, but you need a lot of experience to make the ...
- Fri Feb 02, 2024 4:41 pm
- Forum: Nostalgia
- Topic: The 6502 Rotate Right Myth
- Replies: 18
- Views: 12077
Re: The 6502 Rotate Right Myth
Not sure. I was something like 5 or 6 at the time, so…
- Wed Jan 24, 2024 7:37 pm
- Forum: Nostalgia
- Topic: <2kbyte 6502 Tiny Basic?
- Replies: 143
- Views: 254719
Re: <2kbyte 6502 Tiny Basic?
Quote:
Will takes it a step too far by replacing a<=b with (a-1)<b
- Wed Jan 24, 2024 5:18 am
- Forum: Nostalgia
- Topic: The 6502 Rotate Right Myth
- Replies: 18
- Views: 12077
Re: The 6502 Rotate Right Myth
Bil Herd summarizes the situation. “No chip worked the first time,” he states emphatically. “No chip. It took seven or nine revs [revisions], or if someone was real good they would get it in five or six.”
The ARM1 must be the exception that proves the rule. It did work first time - the ...
The ARM1 must be the exception that proves the rule. It did work first time - the ...
- Mon Jan 22, 2024 3:35 pm
- Forum: Nostalgia
- Topic: <2kbyte 6502 Tiny Basic?
- Replies: 143
- Views: 254719
Re: <2kbyte 6502 Tiny Basic?
From my own design, I can see how mandatory LET could simplify the code, since it reduces the things you need to recognise at the start of a statement - you're always looking for a keyword, which is in the keyword table, and if it's LET or FOR then the next token is a variable name. Without ...
- Mon Dec 18, 2023 4:22 pm
- Forum: Programming
- Topic: Sorting?
- Replies: 2
- Views: 5185
Re: Sorting?
It looks like you're using Knuth's sequence for Shellsort. While it's definitely not the worst one out there, I've found a couple of significantly better ones that are also quite easy to generate.
First is a Modified Sedgewick sequence, essentially 4^k + 3*2^(k-1) + 1 but continued beyond k=1:
405 ...
First is a Modified Sedgewick sequence, essentially 4^k + 3*2^(k-1) + 1 but continued beyond k=1:
405 ...
- Sun Oct 29, 2023 11:34 am
- Forum: Hardware
- Topic: Ideas for "Romless" 6502 using PIC16?
- Replies: 21
- Views: 57442
Re: Ideas for "Romless" 6502 using PIC16?
At 4.5V, the 'HC573 requires an 8ns hold time at room temperature and a 10ns hold time over "industrial" temperature ranges, which are both met by the '816 running at 5V - but only just. You would need to take a lot of care over the skew between the complementary clocks being provided to the CPU and ...
- Fri Oct 27, 2023 1:01 pm
- Forum: Newbies
- Topic: What are the initial values of the flag bits?
- Replies: 3
- Views: 4243
Re: What are the initial values of the flag bits?
More precisely:
The B bit in the status register does not actually exist, and always appears to be set when pushed using PHP. It is not affected by any value loaded using PLP or RTI. The same goes for the unnamed bit next to it. The status register really has only 6 bits in it, and only one or two ...
The B bit in the status register does not actually exist, and always appears to be set when pushed using PHP. It is not affected by any value loaded using PLP or RTI. The same goes for the unnamed bit next to it. The status register really has only 6 bits in it, and only one or two ...
- Thu Oct 26, 2023 9:15 pm
- Forum: Hardware
- Topic: Yet another sbc without a parallel rom
- Replies: 35
- Views: 243422
Re: Yet another sbc without a parallel rom
Wouldn't it be simpler to just connect the reset signal to the D input, and then make sure you have an appropriate polarity of clock to the flipflop?
- Thu Oct 26, 2023 6:39 pm
- Forum: Newbies
- Topic: What are the initial values of the flag bits?
- Replies: 3
- Views: 4243
Re: What are the initial values of the flag bits?
The flag bits are mostly NOT initialised on reset. The exceptions are that interrupts start out masked (because Reset is treated as a special kind of interrupt, and all interrupts mask further interrupts), and on CMOS versions the D flag is also cleared - but on NMOS the D flag is NOT initialised ...
- Thu Oct 26, 2023 11:27 am
- Forum: Hardware
- Topic: Yet another sbc without a parallel rom
- Replies: 35
- Views: 243422
Re: Yet another sbc without a parallel rom
Synchronise the reset signal with a clocked flipflop?
- Tue Oct 24, 2023 9:27 pm
- Forum: Nostalgia
- Topic: <2kbyte 6502 Tiny Basic?
- Replies: 143
- Views: 254719
Re: <2kbyte 6502 Tiny Basic?
This is much better:
Mandelbrot2.png
0 S=4096
5 T=S*4
10 A=S*-21/10
20 B=S*3/2
30 C=S*3/2
40 D=S*-3/2
50 E=200
60 F=(B-A)/128
70 G=(C-D)/48
80 L=C
90 REPEAT
100 K=A
110 REPEAT
120 V=L
130 U=K
150 O=-1
160 REPEAT
170 Z=(U*U-V*V)/S
190 V=U*V/(S/2)+L
200 U=Z+K
210 O=O+1
220 ...
Mandelbrot2.png
0 S=4096
5 T=S*4
10 A=S*-21/10
20 B=S*3/2
30 C=S*3/2
40 D=S*-3/2
50 E=200
60 F=(B-A)/128
70 G=(C-D)/48
80 L=C
90 REPEAT
100 K=A
110 REPEAT
120 V=L
130 U=K
150 O=-1
160 REPEAT
170 Z=(U*U-V*V)/S
190 V=U*V/(S/2)+L
200 U=Z+K
210 O=O+1
220 ...
- Tue Oct 24, 2023 5:32 pm
- Forum: Nostalgia
- Topic: <2kbyte 6502 Tiny Basic?
- Replies: 143
- Views: 254719
Re: <2kbyte 6502 Tiny Basic?
I have a suspicion that those aren't really overflows, but might be due to a subtle bug in the interpreter which would only show up with large-magnitude numbers. The near-threshold iterates in those regions should not be overflowing 32 bits with the scale factor I've selected, but might overflow 24 ...
- Tue Oct 24, 2023 3:51 pm
- Forum: Nostalgia
- Topic: <2kbyte 6502 Tiny Basic?
- Replies: 143
- Views: 254719
Re: <2kbyte 6502 Tiny Basic?
And, what I'm sure you've all been waiting for:
Mandelbrot.png
0 S=2048
10 A=S*-21/10
20 B=S*3/2
30 C=S*3/2
40 D=S*-3/2
50 E=200
60 F=(B-A)/128
70 G=(C-D)/48
80 L=C
90 REPEAT
100 K=A
110 REPEAT
120 V=0
130 U=0
150 O=0
160 REPEAT
170 X=U*U/S
180 Y=V*V/S
190 V=U*V/(S/2)+L
200 U=X ...
Mandelbrot.png
0 S=2048
10 A=S*-21/10
20 B=S*3/2
30 C=S*3/2
40 D=S*-3/2
50 E=200
60 F=(B-A)/128
70 G=(C-D)/48
80 L=C
90 REPEAT
100 K=A
110 REPEAT
120 V=0
130 U=0
150 O=0
160 REPEAT
170 X=U*U/S
180 Y=V*V/S
190 V=U*V/(S/2)+L
200 U=X ...